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mahlerei
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« Reply #4185 on: 16:57:28, 26-03-2008 »
Anna mia

No, it's not the Zappa. Would it help if I said the Mozart was an opera Smiley
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« Reply #4186 on: 17:10:28, 26-03-2008 »
Quote from: mahlerei on 16:57:28, 26-03-2008
Anna mia

No, it's not the Zappa. Would it help if I said the Mozart was an opera Smiley

Mahlerei, mio Caro.

You would know it would help not at all, I do not do Mozart.

Bastien and Bastienne?   Or, Die Schuldigkeit des ersten Gebotes?

Snork!  x
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mahlerei
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« Reply #4187 on: 17:14:27, 26-03-2008 »
Anna

The Britten is also an opera Smiley
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« Reply #4188 on: 17:34:05, 26-03-2008 »
AH well, you know full well I don't do Britten, and I cannot see how it can be Mothers of Invention, or even The Mothers of Prevention, so I bow out of this quiz.
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« Reply #4189 on: 18:40:06, 26-03-2008 »
Quote from: mahlerei on 16:27:46, 26-03-2008
Anna's closest - one of the other works is also a girl's name Smiley

Janacek: Jenufa
Berlioz:
Shosta: Katerina Ismailova/Lady Macbeth of Mtsensk
Zappa:
Swayne:
Mozart:
Mantyjarvi:
Britten:


Is the Mozart Don Giovanni? The Britten Billy Budd?
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mahlerei
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« Reply #4190 on: 18:53:11, 26-03-2008 »
Evening Mark

Not DG or BB. Here is another composer. He and the Mozart are odd ones out but for different reasons.

Janacek: Jenufa
Berlioz:
Shosta: Katerina Ismailova/Lady Macbeth of Mtsensk
Zappa:
Swayne:
Mozart:
Mantyjarvi:
Britten:
Granados:
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« Reply #4191 on: 19:15:05, 26-03-2008 »
Quote from: Antheil the Termite Lover on 17:34:05, 26-03-2008
AH well, you know full well I don't do Britten, and I cannot see how it can be Mothers of Invention, or even The Mothers of Prevention, so I bow out of this quiz.


Maybe you don't do Britten, Anty, but the Britten Sinfonia have done some Zappa in their time, even if not that well. Wink
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The ties that bind
« Reply #4192 on: 19:49:42, 26-03-2008 »
Mantyjarvi?? Huh
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mahlerei
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« Reply #4193 on: 19:53:37, 26-03-2008 »
Quote from: brassbandmaestro on 19:49:42, 26-03-2008
Mantyjarvi?? Huh

BBM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaakko_M%C3%A4ntyj%C3%A4rvi
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« Reply #4194 on: 19:59:39, 26-03-2008 »
Quote from: Bryn on 19:15:05, 26-03-2008
Quote from: Antheil the Termite Lover on 17:34:05, 26-03-2008
AH well, you know full well I don't do Britten, and I cannot see how it can be Mothers of Invention, or even The Mothers of Prevention, so I bow out of this quiz.
Maybe you don't do Britten, Anty, but the Britten Sinfonia have done some Zappa in their time, even if not that well. Wink

Well I know that Bryn.  They have also done Nancarrow.  I am not totally twp. 

But how does Mozart fit into the picture?
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« Reply #4195 on: 08:49:05, 27-03-2008 »
OK, here we go again .....

Is the connection drowning?

Jenufa - Jenufa's child is drowned by the Kostelnica
Lady Macbeth - Katerina is drowned by a fellow prisoner
Swayne - Orpheus drowning
Mantyjarvi - Canticum Calamitatis Maritimae
Mozart - Idomeneo (in which Idomeneo is presumed drowned but turns up - hence the odd one out)
Britten - Peter Grimes  ("sink the boat, d'you hear?")
Granados actually drowned, his ship having been torpedoed during the first world war - once again, an odd one out)

My ignorance of Zappa is, I'm afraid, total.
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« Reply #4196 on: 09:03:01, 27-03-2008 »
Quote from: perfect wagnerite on 08:49:05, 27-03-2008
OK, here we go again .....

Is the connection drowning?

Jenufa - Jenufa's child is drowned by the Kostelnica
Lady Macbeth - Katerina is drowned by a fellow prisoner
Swayne - Orpheus drowning
Mantyjarvi - Canticum Calamitatis Maritimae
Mozart - Idomeneo (in which Idomeneo is presumed drowned but turns up - hence the odd one out)
Britten - Peter Grimes  ("sink the boat, d'you hear?")
Granados actually drowned, his ship having been torpedoed during the first world war - once again, an odd one out)

My ignorance of Zappa is, I'm afraid, total.




Heh, heh, Zappa, "Ship arriving too late to save a drowning witch":



"There’s a ship arriving too late
To save a drowning witch
She was swimmin’ along
Tryin’ to keep a date
With a merchant marine
Who told her he was really rich
But it doesn’t matter no more...
She’s on the ocean floor
’n the water’s all green down there
’n it’s not very clean down there
’n water snakes
’n rusty wrecks
Is all that she can see
As the light goes dim
And she’s tryin’ to swim
Will she make it?
(boy, we sure hope so...)

"Not even a witch oughta be caught
On the bottom of america’s spew-infested
Ho-ho-ho, hey-hey...
She could get radiation all over her
She could mutate insanely... (aie-ee-aie)
She could mutate insanely... (earth wall)
Then you know
She could go on the freeway and grow up to be 15 feet tall
And very very scary-lookin’
And then...
Cars could crash all over the place
As a result of people with hawaiian shirts on...
Lookin’ up to hear her go "ha ha ha..."
Sardines in her eyebrows...
Lobsters up ’n down her pudenda
All of them horribly large from graduation...
And smelling very bad
And dangerous!

"Maybe a submarine could save her,
That’s right! yes, that’s true!
And bring her back just like a mud-shark...
Tell ’em what they win, bob!
Well, therefore ladies:
A full week’s supply of gartenion’s onion rings,
Bronco’s new bondage-in-a-bottle!
It won’t crack, it won’t stake, it won’t beat, it won’t budge,
It won’t bite the old fate...
And of course a brand new, absolutely brand new,
New, new, and of course, but also a new car!"
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mahlerei
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« Reply #4197 on: 12:10:19, 27-03-2008 »
Well done pw and Bryn, bubbly all round Smiley

The Berlioz was The Death of Ophelia - she drowned herself of course.

The Manyjarvi is worth hearing - it's on a Chandos disc called Eternal Rest. You may remember the MV Estonia disaster in the Baltic some years back in which many people drowned. The title comes from the Latin service of Finnish broadcaster YLE, which was the first to report the disaster.
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« Reply #4198 on: 14:32:31, 27-03-2008 »
A new Puzzle

Edward German
Prokofiev
Bartok
Zappa

Three subs on the Bench  Smiley
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mahlerei
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« Reply #4199 on: 15:02:52, 27-03-2008 »
Quote from: Antheil the Termite Lover on 14:32:31, 27-03-2008
A new Puzzle

Edward German
Prokofiev
Bartok
Zappa

Three subs on the Bench  Smiley

Hola Welshio

Could it be:

Edward German: A Princess of Kensington
Bartok: The Wooden Prince
Zappa: The Jewish Princess
Prokofiev: Prince Ivan and the Frog Princess: a Fairy Tale
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