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« Reply #4665 on: 09:18:07, 16-07-2008 »

Well done, Tommo! I was... er... hoping to get to the dove one today.  Embarrassed

And as for IGI and Tommo-esque numerical sequences - genius. If that's not right, I'll eat my three-cornered hat.  Cheesy
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« Reply #4666 on: 10:08:37, 16-07-2008 »

Intriguing, Tommo. The only time I've knowingly seen Youmans' name is as the composer of 'Tea for Two', which DSCH arranged as his Tahiti Trot. Any good?

And Paul Desmond could well be Take Five... Are we looking for a mathematical sequence?  Wink

Is it the Fibonacci sequence?

Holst - Huh  (but I can offer Bliss' Adam Zero as a sub!)
Puccini - One fine day
Barber - Symphony in One Movement
Youmans - Tea for Two
Prokofiev - The Love for Three Oranges
Paul Desmond - Take Five
Glass - Eight Days in June

If so, Thomas Albert's Thirteen Ways (based on Wallace Stevens' Thirteen Ways of Looking at a Blackbird) could be next.
Then, there's the Butterworth song 'When I was one and twenty' from his Housman settings.

As for an alternative sequence...

Bruckner – Symphony No.0 ‘Die Nullte
Bernstein - One Hand, One Heart from West Side Story
Schnittke – Variations on One Chord
Verdi – I due Foscari
De Falla – The Three-cornered hat
Vaughan Williams – Five Variants of Dives and Lazarus
Reich – Eight Lines

and another...

Nyman – A Zed and Two Noughts
Maw – One foot in Eden, still I stand
Weill - One Touch of Venus
Smetana – The Two Widows
Weber – Die Drei Pintos
Ravel - Cinq mélodies populaires grecques
Berlioz - Huit Scènes de Faust


Brilliant!  I thought the Youmans and Desmond might give it to you.

The Holst is a song.  The Glass I had was Planet 8.

And then I thought about Stravinsky Ragtime for 13 instruments...

So the Sequence is....?  And what works demonstrate that sequence?

Tommo
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« Reply #4667 on: 18:21:55, 16-07-2008 »

So the Sequence is....?  And what works demonstrate that sequence?

So, it is the Fibonacci Sequence?

By 'works that demonstrate that sequence' do you mean works which could continue it, as in Thomas Albert's Thirteen Ways and Butterworth's song 'When I was one and twenty'?

The Holst song is My Soul Has Nought but Fire and Ice.
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« Reply #4668 on: 19:50:11, 16-07-2008 »

Try this quartet...

Satie
Mahler
Britten
François Couperin
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« Reply #4669 on: 23:05:10, 16-07-2008 »

So the Sequence is....?  And what works demonstrate that sequence?

So, it is the Fibonacci Sequence?

By 'works that demonstrate that sequence' do you mean works which could continue it, as in Thomas Albert's Thirteen Ways and Butterworth's song 'When I was one and twenty'?

The Holst song is My Soul Has Nought but Fire and Ice.

Yep - marks all round.  By 'demonstrate' I was not at all clear and I actually meant works that were based upon the Fibonacci sequence.  But you've got all that matters and this puzzle is dead.  It is a deceased puzzle.  It has shuffled....

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« Reply #4670 on: 23:20:12, 16-07-2008 »

Yep - marks all round.  By 'demonstrate' I was not at all clear and I actually meant works that were based upon the Fibonacci sequence.  But you've got all that matters and this puzzle is dead.  It is a deceased puzzle.  It has shuffled....

Tommo

Ah, I see. Well, a quick google indicates that Bartók's Music for Strings, Percussion, and Celesta was structured using Fibonacci numbers. (Examples here, scroll a third of the way down) though it requires more study than I'm able to give it at the moment. It's interesting how often Fibonacci numbers crop up in nature - my class last year found a number of flowers which had arrangements of petals featuring numbers in the sequence.
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« Reply #4671 on: 18:11:53, 18-07-2008 »

No takers for this one? Let's dangle another composer before you then!

Satie
Mahler
Britten
François Couperin
Del Tredici
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« Reply #4672 on: 18:29:34, 18-07-2008 »

No takers for this one? Let's dangle another composer before you then!

Satie
Mahler
Britten
François Couperin
Del Tredici


Well, I'm not going to go for the obvious Alice link - is this something to do with the atrocious fish puns on another thread:

Del Tredici - Haddocks' Eyes
Satie - The Dreamy Fish
Mahler - St Antony preaching to the fishes
Britten - Albert Herring
Couperin -???
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« Reply #4673 on: 18:32:57, 18-07-2008 »

Very good, pw!  Cheesy How about these extras then...

Del Tredici - Haddocks' Eyes
Satie - The Dreamy Fish
Mahler - St Anthony preaching to the fishes
Britten - Albert Herring
Couperin
Takemitsu
Schubert
di Capua
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« Reply #4674 on: 18:42:45, 18-07-2008 »

Schubert:  The Trout
di Capua:  O Sole Mio
Couperin: Huitieme Ordre
Takemitsu: Blue fish/Red fish
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« Reply #4675 on: 21:32:04, 18-07-2008 »

Schubert:  The Trout
di Capua:  O Sole Mio
Couperin: Huitieme Ordre
Takemitsu: Blue fish/Red fish

Yes to Schubert and di Capua, Anty. The Couperin I had in mind was from the 22nd Ordre - L'Anguille (The Eel), whilst the third movement of Takemitsu's Toward the Sea is titled Cape Cod!  Cheesy
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« Reply #4676 on: 23:18:59, 19-07-2008 »

OH MIGOD, I only just seen this, I have scored!!  With fish!!  Overjoyed.  Nige tonight is good also.
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« Reply #4677 on: 23:25:36, 19-07-2008 »

Nige tonight is good also.

Wasn't he just! I was there for the main Prom, having just returned home. It was the first time I've seen him in concert and he was just great - I've long enjoyed his music-making, but have been sceptical about his antics/ appearance etc, but I can honestly say that his stage presence is highly infectious. Here's a guy who clearly adores the music and he inspired the BBCCO to match him with some glorious playing.
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« Reply #4678 on: 23:32:52, 19-07-2008 »

Nige tonight is good also.

Wasn't he just! I was there for the main Prom, having just returned home. It was the first time I've seen him in concert and he was just great - I've long enjoyed his music-making, but have been sceptical about his antics/ appearance etc, but I can honestly say that his stage presence is highly infectious. Here's a guy who clearly adores the music and he inspired the BBCCO to match him with some glorious playing.

I will instantly dig out me Nige cds.  I saw him play football once, he did run like a gurlie!

Now he playing Hendrix
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« Reply #4679 on: 07:26:42, 20-07-2008 »

Try and connect these four (no subs I can think of)

Walton
Britten
Respighi
Shostakovich
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