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Author Topic: New Musical Connections  (Read 119925 times)
thompson1780
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« Reply #4680 on: 23:01:24, 20-07-2008 »

Walton Scapino
Britten Soiress Musicales
Respighi Rossiniana
Shostakovich Symphony No.15

ROSSINI!

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« Reply #4681 on: 23:09:40, 20-07-2008 »

Crikey, Tommo, I didn't think anyone would spot that link! The Walton Scapino quotes part of Rossini's overture to Tancredi, but there is another Rossini quote he uses in another piece - any ideas? I'd suspect it's one that most listeners would spot.  Wink  I also had a different Respighi, although in a very similar vein.
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« Reply #4682 on: 23:15:56, 20-07-2008 »

To celebrate, here is the second image that comes up if you google "Rossini Party":



Woo-hoo.

Were you thinking of William Tell from Facade?  And Respighi's Boutique Fantastique (one of my oldest LPs)?

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« Reply #4683 on: 23:18:52, 20-07-2008 »

Wow! Respect both! [Later: Ahem, cough. That relates to the question setter and solver, not to the delights of Tommo's message 4682.]

The other Walton would be that little bit in Facade. '... And Mrs Cow. Ba babada, baba ba da da.'  

[D'oh. Tommo knew anyway. And first. And it's probably not the Mrs Cow number anyway. Memory is a bit shaky.]
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« Reply #4684 on: 23:19:44, 20-07-2008 »

Were you thinking of William Tell from Facade?  And Respighi's Boutique Fantastique (one of my oldest LPs)?

Yes to both of those, Tommo. (Puzzle devised having recently watched the La Scala production of William Tell on DVD - some really good music there).



[D'oh. Tommo knew anyway. And first.]

Never mind, George. I expect you'll get the next one.  Wink  It was the Swiss Yodelling Song.
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« Reply #4685 on: 23:28:49, 20-07-2008 »

Wow! Respect both! [Later: Ahem, cough. That relates to the question setter and solver, not to the delights of Tommo's message 4682.]

Calm down, George, or I might not reveal who I saw on Thursday evening at the Barbican... Wink
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« Reply #4686 on: 23:37:11, 20-07-2008 »

Calm down, George, or I might not reveal who I saw on Thursday evening at the Barbican... Wink

I somehow wondered whether you might be there, IGI  Smiley. Don't tell me you contrived a third intimate chat with her. That would be too much to bear.


                                            
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« Reply #4687 on: 23:47:36, 20-07-2008 »

Don't tell me you contrived a third intimate chat with her. That would be too much to bear.

Sadly not, although she gave me a gorgeous smile just before launching into the Mozart.  Wink [And I expect just about every other male in the audience felt it was for them too, but it wasn't - it was directed straight at me, so there!!]

There was a CD signing afterwards, but as I already have the disc and stupidly didn't anticipate such an event and bring it with me...
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« Reply #4688 on: 23:54:54, 20-07-2008 »

Oh, don't get me started on that Thursday concert at the Barbican!  Is there anybody else on this board who wishes she would just stop mucking about, stand still, and SING without cracking any notes?

Enjoyed the Mozart flute & harp, the Haydn symphony, and the da capo of 'Myself I shall adore'.  Otherwise, very disappointed.
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« Reply #4689 on: 00:05:29, 21-07-2008 »

Oh, don't get me started on that Thursday concert at the Barbican!  Is there anybody else on this board who wishes she would just stop mucking about, stand still, and SING without cracking any notes?

I didn't see that concert, but generally I agree.  But approximately half the audience goes for the mucking about (don't you boys) so at least they're happy.  If she stopped that, then everyone would be disappointed.  A far-from-fantastic voice wrapped in a knockout package.

At least when she's in a staged production her dancing/acting/wriggling can help her develop a convincing character to a level that her singing alone wouldn't manage.  In concert performances though it really is eye-rolling:  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4690 on: 00:16:09, 21-07-2008 »

Well, I disagree on one count.  I do think she has a very good (basic vocal) talent in there.  I remember being very impressed in the Glyndebourne Giulio Cesare (which I loved) with her Piangerò - the one point of the production which involved her sitting still and singing.  My (gay male) companion agreed.

I think she is very good in staged production, where she gets to play off other people on stage rather than mugging to the gallery.

Incidentally, in the interval of Thursday's concert - at which I regret I did not encounter IGI, as I had forgotten he was going to be there, which is somewhat remiss of me given that it was I who tipped him off about the concert in the first place - I ran into an acquaintance whose opinion on the first half matched mine almost exactly.  He's a straight male... it would appear that there are some of them who don't lose their critical faculties with a mere flash of the De Niese smile Wink

Strina, I don't suppose you played in that concert she did at St John's Smith Square a while back (last year or the year before?)
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« Reply #4691 on: 00:30:37, 21-07-2008 »

 I'll just emerge from behind the sofa(!) for a moment to say sorry I didn't get to see you, Ruth - you were actually only two rows in front of me (could you see much over Kew Gardens?!) and as I awaited your return at the end of the interval, the person next to me suddenly engaged me in conversation about Classicfm TV!

Is there anybody else on this board who wishes she would just stop mucking about, stand still, and SING without cracking any notes?

What some might label 'mucking about', others might call 'acting' - I was very convinced by her concert performance last year as Ginevra in Ariodante. There were some cracks particularly in Endless Pleasure, but I enjoyed her vocal performances very much (as I did the Haydn symphony - especially the timps - and the Mozart concerto).

Incidentally, a colleague (female) who knows a thing or two about baroque singing, saw her at Glyndebourne last month and was majorly impressed, so I think a treat is in store for you at the Proms...

... it would appear that there are some of them who don't lose their critical faculties with a mere flash of the De Niese smile Wink

Oooh, retires behind sofa again, but not before setting a simplish new puzzle (if only to divert attention)  Cheesy

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« Reply #4692 on: 00:58:06, 21-07-2008 »

Well. She is rather attractive (apart from the "acting") but I like her voice less and less the more I hear it. I find it shrill and somewhat uncontrolled.
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« Reply #4693 on: 09:36:36, 21-07-2008 »

(could you see much over Kew Gardens?!)
Oh, most things, from the knees up Cheesy  I couldn't see anybody's shoes...

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What some might label 'mucking about', others might call 'acting' - I was very convinced by her concert performance last year as Ginevra in Ariodante.
I didn't see that.  I had had a ticket for it principally because I wanted to hear Kirchschlager sing Ariodante.  When the cast started dropping out one by one, culminating in the loss of Kirchschlager, I returned my ticket as Ariodante is probably my least favourite of the well-known Handel operas, apart from Scherza infida and Dopo notte, and I was due to be out almost every other night that week anyway.  The one thing that nearly made me hang onto the ticket was the prospect of Danielle de Niese taking something seriously, and in hindsight I rather regret not having witnessed this rare occasion.

I have always said I would love to see her in something really serious.  To me, though, on Thursday, when she sang 'Lascia ch'io pianga' it came across as a petulant teenager who's been told to go to her room... and I was hoping I might see a straight face at some point during Exsultate, jubilate, but no - only a lot of the usual gurning and the fluffing of the first TWO entries in the Alleluja.

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Incidentally, a colleague (female) who knows a thing or two about baroque singing, saw her at Glyndebourne last month and was majorly impressed, so I think a treat is in store for you at the Proms...
So did I!  Rather enjoyed her in that, and am looking forward to revisiting it at the Proms (it's a production that should adapt well to a semi-staged version).

Sorry, this is all terribly off-topic for NMC...

Edited to respond to what Richard said: Another thing that bothered me about her singing (other than the cracked notes) was the way her very top notes and very bottom notes seemed to be completely detached from the rest of her register...
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« Reply #4694 on: 10:37:31, 21-07-2008 »

Oh, it was late last night and maybe I wasn't expressing myself that clearly.  I don't think she's a terrible singer.  She definitely is a proper singer unlike many in the so-called crossover brigade who get by on looks and evening gowns alone.  But I don't think her voice merits quite the tizzy so many people get into about her.  I pretty much agree with Richard's  assessment.  She's not a great singer despite being able to do many things with facility - but I think she can be a terrific performer.

I've heard mixed things about her Poppaea, but hope to have a chance to make up my own mind.  Any tips for how early I'll have to start camping out for that one?

And now back to your regularly scheduled programme...

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