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Thank you oliver sudden,
It was interesting to hear James Joyce's voice. The accent doesn't sound familiar to me. It is probably Dublin accent. We have a different way of speaking here. Nora Barnicle came from our town. There is a small townhouse that her family occupied here. It is really small. I positively have no interest in short stories (like most of my Russian friends). Ulises is better book for me, but I find it difficult if I am trying to read it by myself.
The best as far as I can see is Fennigan Wake. This is his best book, as far as I can see. I am very enthusiastic about it at the moment. I have a notebook ready to start taking notes. My friend has a lovely wife. She loves this book too. She will say something about it.
My friend suggested that I would buy Ulises and we will read it together. May be I will take his suggestion. I don't know yet. I may take Finnigan Wake option because we can read two lines and discuss it. I don't know what I will do. I may decide that I am still not interested.
There are other Irish authors I like to read. There are good writers that wrote for theater. There are writers that have plays very similar to Bulgakov. I will probably start with them.
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« Reply #961 on: 02:18:05, 13-09-2008 » |
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Thank you oliver sudden,
It was interesting to hear James Joyce's voice. The accent doesn't sound familiar to me. It is probably Dublin accent. We have a different way of speaking here. Nora Barnicle came from our town. There is a small townhouse that her family occupied here. It is really small. I positively have no interest in short stories (like most of my Russian friends). Ulises is better book for me, but I find it difficult if I am trying to read it by myself.
The best as far as I can see is Fennigan Wake. This is his best book, as far as I can see. I am very enthusiastic about it at the moment. I have a notebook ready to start taking notes. My friend has a lovely wife. She loves this book too. She will say something about it.
My friend suggested that I would buy Ulises and we will read it together. May be I will take his suggestion. I don't know yet. I may take Finnigan Wake option because we can read two lines and discuss it. I don't know what I will do. I may decide that I am still not interested.
There are other Irish authors I like to read. There are good writers that wrote for theater. There are writers that have plays very similar to Bulgakov. I will probably start with them.
t-p if you are interested in Finnegans Wake can I suggest Roaratorio by John Cage as a starter? It may get you into the mood for the ebb and the flow of the language? You can easily find a cd of it via Google. It is wonderful. I would hate anyone to be discouraged from reading Joyce and as you are so interested in him I think this would be good. http://www.themodernword.com/Joyce/music/cage_roaratorio.html
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« Reply #963 on: 08:18:10, 13-09-2008 » |
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Echoing bopa Anty's recommendation, I would mention that the Mode issue does not need to be ordered direct. If you search for "cage roaratorio" on the Amazon UK site, you will find it at a significantly reduced price from Caiman (via the Amazon Marketplace). The Mode issue is based on a higher quality re-mastering than the old Wergo issue. Another advantage of the Mode issue is the inclusion of the full printed text of Cage's "Writing for the Second Time Through Finnegans Wake" in Cage's mesostic format, in a separate 40 page booklet.
In 1987, for Cage's 75th birthday, the work was performed with choreography by Cage's partner, Merce Cunningham, at the Proms. It was quite an evening.
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« Reply #964 on: 16:47:32, 13-09-2008 » |
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Good morning,
Thank you Anthiel for this interesting site and for your thoughts about Finnegans Wake. I am still undecided. May be I will go to town today and buy Finnegans Wake. Sounds like a good idea to me at this hour of the day. Thank you again, Anthiel. I really appreciate it.
t-p, I have found this marvellous website which should help in your James Joyce studies, it is about Ulysses and is endlessly fascinating. Please let us know what you think and how you are getting on with Finnegans Wake. http://www.joyceimages.com/chapter/1/
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« Reply #965 on: 16:55:52, 13-09-2008 » |
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Thank you, Anthiel, This is really marvellous website. I like it very much.
My friend wanted me to buy Ulysis and to read it together. I thought that I would go for Finnegans Wake. Now I am changing my mind again. I am going to buy Ulysis as he suggested.
Thank you Anthiel very much for your encouragement in reading James Joyce. I have a rehearsal tomorrow afternoon in town and I will go to a book shop and buy Ulysis. I think I have my decision now.
I will tell you how I am getting on with it.
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« Reply #966 on: 17:15:11, 13-09-2008 » |
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Thank you Anthiel very much for your encouragement in reading James Joyce. I have a rehearsal tomorrow afternoon in town and I will go to a book shop and buy Ulysis. I think I have my decision now.
I will tell you how I am getting on with it.
That is good t-p, Joyce is often not easy, we look forward to regular updates. Do you know Flann O Brien? He is very good and very funny.
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« Reply #967 on: 17:53:20, 13-09-2008 » |
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Thank you, Anthiel. I did hear about O'Brien probably form the same friend.
I just had another friend drop by and told him about my project with Ulysis. He was supportinve, but said that he still had no time to read it. (He is Irish in his mid 30s).
He suggested I buy Ulyses in second hand book shop for 2 euro. This friend is very practical. He is our main conductor and we play together sometimes in a trio.
My plan is to by Ulyses tomorrow (second hand or new), start reading it and then ask questions. I can ask my friend here, but there is a limit with how many calls I can make to him. So if you don't mind I will ask you.
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« Reply #969 on: 06:30:49, 14-09-2008 » |
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Morning t-p, I don't know what I'm doing on here, having got to bed after 1am. Oh well, I expect I'll drop off again and end up waking at midday.
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« Reply #970 on: 06:37:46, 14-09-2008 » |
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Or you can sleep in the middle of the day. It happens to me sometimes (not always). I still cannot get to normal sleep pattern. Usually I sleep well. However, if I remember my grandmother who always slept badly I know that it is not dangerous to sleep less. My grandmother liked to complain. She was great at it. It was so funny. But when things were really bad she did not complain. I was not there to help her in the end. Last years she was lonely. Her son's wife was awful.
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'is this all we can do?' anonymous student of the University of Berkeley, California quoted in H. Draper, 'The new student revolt' (New York: Grove Press, 1965) http://www.myspace.com/itensemble
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« Reply #972 on: 08:37:48, 15-09-2008 » |
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This post has been moved to the Literature thread.
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« Reply #973 on: 08:46:48, 15-09-2008 » |
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tp, this topic is really more suited to discussion on the Literature thread and I would like to move it there if that's ok with you. Could you let me know please? Thanks.
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« Reply #974 on: 08:48:38, 15-09-2008 » |
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Yes, it is ok. I did not know for a while I will go ahead with reading Joyces books. I was afraid. But now I bought both books and I am going to start reading. Thank you.
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