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Author Topic: Two- to Sixty-second Repertoire Test Discussion  (Read 18090 times)
Sydney Grew
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« Reply #1245 on: 22:27:07, 13-03-2008 »

It is so difficult when folks don't post the links and you have to trawl back pages and never find the links.

May we advise the Member of the thread entitled Repertoire Records? Mr. Sudden has been kind enough to make it a "pinned" or "stuck" thread, so that it is always easy and convenient to find. We suggest the Member might open that thread in a separate window or tab; thenceforth a single "click" on the line devoted to any unsolved puzzle in which she is interested will take her in a flash to the message in which it was first set.
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« Reply #1246 on: 23:43:37, 13-03-2008 »

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Right then, here is Puzzle 344, to get to work on.

Would that be one of the ten thousand piano sonatas by John White, by any chance?

No it would not, richard.
Well, that's the best I can do, and no.345 is also a closed book to me, as, I have to admit, is most piano music.
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« Reply #1247 on: 23:46:44, 13-03-2008 »

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Right then, here is Puzzle 344, to get to work on.

Would that be one of the ten thousand piano sonatas by John White, by any chance?

No it would not, richard.
Well, that's the best I can do, and no.345 is also a closed book to me, as, I have to admit, is most piano music.

What if I was to tell you that 345 was a version of a work more normally heard with full orchestra? More clues in the morning, maybe. I'm off to bed. Might listen to some Martinu.
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« Reply #1248 on: 00:09:57, 14-03-2008 »

the opportunities for negative scores previously available have been gradually taken away and all the negative totals set to zero
Oh, so that's what happened, is it? I did wonder - the figures in red had all disappeared when I returned to the boards after my little break a couple of weeks ago.

What I'm still curious to know is why Ian is on -75, when as you say no one else seems to have a negative total any more.
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Sydney Grew
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« Reply #1249 on: 03:47:38, 14-03-2008 »

the opportunities for negative scores previously available have been gradually taken away and all the negative totals set to zero
Oh, so that's what happened, is it? I did wonder - the figures in red had all disappeared when I returned to the boards after my little break a couple of weeks ago.

What I'm still curious to know is why Ian is on -75, when as you say no one else seems to have a negative total any more.

Some weeks ago - on February the twenty-ninth to be precise - carried away by the date we made a gesture towards members and reset to nought the scores of those who had drifted into negative regions. Here is where it happened. Mr. Pace's latest contribution was made subsequent to that date.

As for those persons complaining about the omission of their names from the points ladder, we expect it happened because they exceeded the permitted number of successive off-topic messages. But there is an easy and instant way to be reinstated should they really wish to be: just submit one valid message such as a new puzzle or an attempted solution to an existing puzzle.
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« Reply #1250 on: 08:52:11, 14-03-2008 »

As for those persons complaining about the omission of their names from the points ladder, we expect it happened because they exceeded the permitted number of successive off-topic messages.

Or, ahem, lest anyone think that I was among those who indulged in such antisocial behaviour, there were some persons, impatient and unwilling to wait for the inevitable world revolution in which the competitive and inequitable accumulation of 'points' will be abolished for ever, who decided to renounce the evils of pointilism and to live a pure and pointless life in the here and now. It is a course of action which had given us much peace of mind. 

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[Edit: Oh, I've just seen that my name has reappeared in the league table. And with a pitifully low score.]
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« Reply #1251 on: 11:08:20, 14-03-2008 »

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Which would make it Beethoven's Creatures of Prometheus, no?

But surely, that is a stage work, and I feel sure that SCGrew would not so flagrantly violate the rules of the game.
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« Reply #1252 on: 11:14:52, 14-03-2008 »

Or, ahem, lest anyone think that I was among those who indulged in such antisocial behaviour, there were some persons, impatient and unwilling to wait for the inevitable world revolution in which the competitive and inequitable accumulation of 'points' will be abolished for ever, who decided to renounce the evils of pointilism and to live a pure and pointless life in the here and now. It is a course of action which had given us much peace of mind. 

What do points mean?

PRIZES! The maintenance of injustice, elitism and the inevitable degradation of the human spirit.
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« Reply #1253 on: 11:15:41, 14-03-2008 »

I am afraid it looks like -75 points for SCGrew, since Puzzle 346 violates the 1 minute rule by an excess of 0.73 seconds.
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Sydney Grew
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« Reply #1254 on: 11:52:37, 14-03-2008 »

Puzzle 346 presents a clip form Scriabin's 7th sonata for pianoforte, (I am right in thinking that a correct answer requires both the name of the work and that of the composer, am I not?).

We do not expect the Member to insist on this point after a short consideration of this:

No, no, 335 is the seventh of the twelve Contredances for orchestra (WoO 14).

But it is true that in the long term we intend to introduce a rule stipulating that every attempted answer should contain a puzzle number, a composer's name, and the unambiguous identification of an opus.
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« Reply #1255 on: 11:59:02, 14-03-2008 »

Puzzle 346 presents a clip form Scriabin's 7th sonata for pianoforte, (I am right in thinking that a correct answer requires both the name of the work and that of the composer, am I not?).

We do not expect the Member to insist on this point after a short consideration of this:

No, no, 335 is the seventh of the twelve Contredances for orchestra (WoO 14).

But it is true that in the long term we intend to introduce a rule stipulating that every attempted answer should contain a puzzle number, a composer's name, and the unambiguous identification of an opus.


A very fair and sensible proposal, as long as it is applied with a little flexibility where, for instance, the composer is not identifiable, but other factors clearly and specifically identify the work in question. I happily applaud the flexibility in application of the current rules demonstrated in this immediate adjudication.

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Sydney Grew
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« Reply #1256 on: 12:15:18, 14-03-2008 »

Until to-day when we dipped into the eminent Percy Scholes's pages in order to check the spelling of the word "Contredanse" we had not been aware that the term really means just "Country Dance". It is of British origin he says, and its various foreign names such as "Contredanse" and "Contradanza" have arisen from a plausible but false etymology ("counter dance" as distinguished from "round dance"). The term is generic and describes a whole series of figure dances deriving from the amusements of the English village green; such dances became popular at the court of Queen Elizabeth. In the early years of the nineteenth century the waltz and quadrille drove the country dance out of the English ballroom; but the folk-dance movement of the twentieth century brought it back into considerable use. Scotland on the other hand he tells us retained a number of its country dances throughout.
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« Reply #1257 on: 12:52:32, 14-03-2008 »

What do points mean?

PRIZES! The maintenance of injustice, elitism and the inevitable degradation of the human spirit.

Indeed so, martle, my view exactly Cheesy.  Although I have a feeling that that R3OK MB favourite Mr Nietzsche might look down with a pitying sneer at my anti-pointilism and denounce it as a mere self-deluding slave morality, a religion for the inadequate.

He may have a point.

And, as we know, points mean ...
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« Reply #1258 on: 12:58:35, 14-03-2008 »

And points mean ...

I don't think anyone is in this game for the sake of accumulation of points, are they?  Undecided
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« Reply #1259 on: 15:39:25, 14-03-2008 »

Some weeks ago - on February the twenty-ninth to be precise - carried away by the date we made a gesture towards members and reset to nought the scores of those who had drifted into negative regions. Here is where it happened. Mr. Pace's latest contribution was made subsequent to that date.
Thank you for the explanation, although I'm still curious to know quite what Mr Pace managed to do to incur negative points when no one else seems able to procure the same any longer ('not even for ready money' as the phrase goes ...).

I'm intrigued also to know what new technique of typing Mr Bryn has adopted to lead to isolated characters turning blue in several of his recent posts to this thread.
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