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« Reply #1275 on: 11:17:57, 15-03-2008 » |
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We are much exercised by Mr. Thompson's puzzle 343. It sounds like something written by some one who has heard Gurrelieder, yet we are practically certain it is not itself from Gurrelieder. Nothing of Webern or Zemlinsky seems to fit, and we eagerly await further developments.
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« Reply #1276 on: 11:33:01, 15-03-2008 » |
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« Reply #1277 on: 11:36:58, 15-03-2008 » |
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I've just tried them, and they seemed fine!
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« Reply #1278 on: 11:59:08, 15-03-2008 » |
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I've just tried them, and they seemed fine!
Me too. It's just you, IGI  Tommo |
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« Reply #1279 on: 12:06:46, 15-03-2008 » |
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Well 354 sounds quite Brahmsian, but I didn't recognise it as coming from either of the sonatas. I don't think I've ever played this piece, so that rules the Stanford out (which is quite Brahmsian itself) so it's probably either German or English, contemporary or just after with smharB. I shall ponder on't and come back when someone else has solved it!  |
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« Reply #1280 on: 12:20:35, 15-03-2008 » |
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My line of thinking too, hh. It certainly isn't either of the Brahms's's's. I reckon English rather than German. Could be a Stanford contemporary - Parry? No. Hang on a mo...
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Sydney Grew
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« Reply #1281 on: 17:45:23, 15-03-2008 » |
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There cannot be that many composers who've written two serenades, one with an opus number close to 10 and have only featured once in Mr Grew's snatch test, can there?! The two occurrences of names do not have to be works written by the one composer, do they. We were thinking of Reger and the Isle of the Dead (the name count having changed recently with Rachmaninoff's puzzle) but it is not his music. So we still incline to the second Viennese school. |
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« Reply #1282 on: 17:50:39, 15-03-2008 » |
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Hm. Having now actually listened to Puzzle 343 I ask Tommo to disregard my pathetic attempt to guess what it was.
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« Reply #1283 on: 17:54:14, 15-03-2008 » |
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Sorry Mr Grew, I have been unclear. The Composer of 343only appears once in the list of correctly identified puzzles. The title of the work (which Mr Pop believes to be Serenade ) has now appeared 3 times in the titles of correctly identified puzzles, although when I first posted that clue it had only appeared twice. The composer of 343 wrote two works with this title. You have to identify the correct one. You are slanting the wrong way, by the way Mr 1780 |
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« Reply #1284 on: 22:46:08, 15-03-2008 » |
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Puzzle 325 as Baz has established is by Marc-Antoine Charpentier. It is one of his few works unconnected with either church or stage.
Anyway, it is not by Charpentier.
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« Reply #1285 on: 23:07:40, 15-03-2008 » |
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Puzzle 325 as Baz has established is by Marc-Antoine Charpentier. It is one of his few works unconnected with either church or stage.
Anyway, it is not by Charpentier.
I'm confused! How do you think I feel? What has happened is that Mr Grew in his "Repertoire Records" has it that puzzle 327 was solved by Mme Antheil as Charpentier's Sonate à huit, whereas he should have placed this information next to puzzle 325. This was, I now think, the confusion which led me to post too many snatches in the mistaken belief that more had been solved than actually had. Be that as it may, the puzzle I was referring to as puzzle 325 is actually Puzzle 327, about which we know that someone has already found its composer, that it is concerned with opening a book and tuning an instrument, and that it is the first of a collection of 29 pieces. Good luck! |
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« Reply #1286 on: 23:13:36, 15-03-2008 » |
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Bit quiet here this evening. How about a few clues? We are astonished that none of the legion of modernists has pounced upon this one; we could hardly have made it more obvious could we? But one of the curious observations that has arisen from this competition is how resolute members can be in their irresolution. Let us now that the moment for a clue has arrived wrap up puzzle 351 with as much despatch as possible. Its composer's name begins with "Sz" but he was no Pole! He expired only a few months ago. According to Mr. Karpati writing in Grove the composer was "never drawn to the avant-garde," which we find difficult to comprehend seeing that he created for his own use a special kind of free serialism. A good example of this technique may be found in his Trasfigurazione for orchestra, written in 1972 two years before the present work. Another critic indicates something nearer the truth, saying that he "never for one moment gave up his radicalism." Here is an interesting photograph of him with his large dog. |
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« Reply #1287 on: 23:22:06, 15-03-2008 » |
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Puzzle 325 as Baz has established is by Marc-Antoine Charpentier. It is one of his few works unconnected with either church or stage.
Anyway, it is not by Charpentier.
I'm confused! How do you think I feel? What has happened is that Mr Grew in his "Repertoire Records" has it that puzzle 327 was solved by Mme Antheil as Charpentier's Sonate à huit, whereas he should have placed this information next to puzzle 325. This was, I now think, the confusion which led me to post too many snatches in the mistaken belief that more had been solved than actually had. Be that as it may, the puzzle I was referring to as puzzle 325 is actually Puzzle 327, about which we know that someone has already found its composer, that it is concerned with opening a book and tuning an instrument, and that it is the first of a collection of 29 pieces. Good luck! The confusion among members seems to have reached its peak. But we are only citing this: Puzzle 327 - how about Charpentier - Sonate for 8 instruments?
Oui Madame! which seems clear-cut enough does it not? We read that is to say 327 and not 325 do not we? Perhaps the view of Madame Antheil herself should be sought . . . |
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« Reply #1288 on: 23:28:36, 15-03-2008 » |
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Puzzle 327 - how about Charpentier - Sonate for 8 instruments?
Oui Madame! which seems clear-cut enough does it not? We read that is to say 327 and not 325 do not we? We do. But however that may be, whichever Puzzle Mme Antheil thought she was getting right, it was actually no.325 which she did get right, and no.327 at whose heels Mr Inquisitor is currently snapping. |
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« Reply #1289 on: 23:34:32, 15-03-2008 » |
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 Hurrah! In 54 seconds too, beating Mr Sudden's best, we believe?! I doubt it would have been much quicker if I had PM'd you the answer in advance. Now there's a natty idea for us ganging up to try and stop IGI lapping us all...... Tommo |
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