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« Reply #660 on: 08:57:31, 22-02-2008 »

I am confused with your comment about 132 Mr Grew. Scarlatti, of harpsichord fame? I do hope you can hear an extra instrument of which, to my knowledge, he didn't use in this context.
 
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« Reply #661 on: 09:11:56, 22-02-2008 »

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135 is Messiaen's Turangalîla-Symphonie.

Indeed, richard. Baz, that was far, far too easy, given the membership here. Wink
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« Reply #662 on: 09:15:43, 22-02-2008 »

Yes indeed. Being one of the numerous members who would have identified it within a second or two, I thought I had better submit my answer as quickly as possible without naming the movement, having been pipped at the post so many times.
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« Reply #663 on: 09:19:18, 22-02-2008 »

Now, that violin and continuo piece of A's. Very mysterious indeed. Something about it suggested Handel to me but it's not from any Handel violin sonata I know, nor is it Bach, Telemann, Vivaldi or Corelli I think, its slight clumsiness might suggest someone like Avison but maybe it's even more obscure than that. I am quite flummoxed by it.
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« Reply #664 on: 09:21:16, 22-02-2008 »

I will offer one further, indeed final, clue to Puzzle 130. The work illustrated by a short extract was completed on the composer's 37th birthday.

[Oh dear, a clue too far, perhaps. Creative Googling, informed by an earlier clue, gives only one answer.]
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« Reply #665 on: 09:23:55, 22-02-2008 »

Now, that violin and continuo piece of A's. Very mysterious indeed. Something about it suggested Handel to me but it's not from any Handel violin sonata I know, nor is it Bach, Telemann, Vivaldi or Corelli I think, its slight clumsiness might suggest someone like Avison but maybe it's even more obscure than that. I am quite flummoxed by it.

I wonder why you have cast off so many possible composers richard  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #666 on: 10:29:48, 22-02-2008 »

Now come on, you lot. Who is going to chance their arm at Puzzles 118, 127 and 130. I have others here, ready and waiting. You've had lots of clues. Indeed, enough to solve 130 without ever having heard the work! I accept that 118 will only have been heard by a few or you, but I would have thought its composer was pretty immediately identifiable. Then you only have to sort out which of his relatively obscure works it might be. As I indicated, I know of three CD recordings of the work. Two of those were recorded by the same pianist, the first using the then only available printed version of the score, the second, issued on his own record label, using an edition prepared and published by the pianist.

The other recording comprised the first CD on a survey of the composers work by a pianist associated with the complete piano works of a composer much influenced by he who composed the item in question.

The composer of the work featured in Puzzle 127 was first mentioned here by SCGrew himself, autoharp, last summer.
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« Reply #667 on: 10:47:06, 22-02-2008 »

HERE is Puzzle 136

136 sounds like the wind sinfonia concertante attributed to Mozart K297b?

Indeed, it is from the final movement or the Bowdlerized version of that work (with a clarinet part which Mozart would surely not have written during that stay in Paris.)

Some info
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« Reply #668 on: 11:06:38, 22-02-2008 »

HERE is Puzzle 136

136 sounds like the wind sinfonia concertante attributed to Mozart K297b?

Indeed, it is from the final movement or the Bowdlerized version of that work (with a clarinet part which Mozart would surely not have written during that stay in Paris.)

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Very questionable 'info' is that, Baz. For a start, the recording in the Brilliant Classic edition is the one with the clarinet part. Levin had a go reconstructing the work for what was thought to be the original instrumentation. His edition is available, on a Philips double album of Mozart "flute" music. Worth hearing for the oboe playing, if nothing else.  A solo part for clarinet just does not seem at all likely for that period of Mozart's career.

For what appears to me to be more reliable info, try here.
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« Reply #669 on: 11:49:08, 22-02-2008 »

Baz, and others, here is that opening of the finale of K297b in Levin's edition, played by Aurèle Nocolet, Heinz Holliger, Hermann Baumann and Klaus Thunemann, with the ASMF, directed by Neville Marriner.
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« Reply #670 on: 12:29:44, 22-02-2008 »

I am confused with your comment about 132 Mr Grew. Scarlatti, of harpsichord fame? I do hope you can hear an extra instrument of which, to my knowledge, he didn't use in this context.
 
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Don't worry, it is we who are confused - we did hear the extra instrument but scarcely knowing the difference between Scarlatti and Corelli we probably intended the latter - one of his fifty Trio Sonatas perhaps?
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« Reply #671 on: 13:42:28, 22-02-2008 »

"Just for you, Anty, Puzzle 127 , not that it will help. I would only really expect SCGrew or autoharp to have much of a chance, but am happy to be proved wrong."

You were right of course Bryn (as usual)!  I am afraid I cannot prove you wrong  Wink  SCGrew and autoharp - an interesting meeting of minds I would have thought!
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« Reply #672 on: 13:55:17, 22-02-2008 »

"Just for you, Anty, Puzzle 127 , not that it will help. I would only really expect SCGrew or autoharp to have much of a chance, but am happy to be proved wrong."

You were right of course Bryn (as usual)!  I am afraid I cannot prove you wrong  Wink  SCGrew and autoharp - an interesting meeting of minds I would have thought!

O.K., major, major clue. I used to think I knew a chamber work by the composer represented in Puzzle 127, but later discovered that the work I thought was by him, was in fact by a French composer.

[Now that should let Baz in.]
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« Reply #673 on: 14:35:55, 22-02-2008 »

Now that the composer represented in Puzzle 127 has been correctly identified, all it needs is to consider which work, completed in advance of "Music for Orchestra", the extract it taken from. Be careful not to trip over the leads of any fighting dogs you might come across. No good would come of it.
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« Reply #674 on: 14:46:58, 22-02-2008 »

Number 118: Messiaen, one of the 8 preludes of 1929 - we don't know any Scottish connection though!

But wait! Come to think of it, there are his Scottish Variations of 1928, but they were written for organ; perhaps he arranged them for piano - so that is our second guess.

[Oops - wrong thread.]
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