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« Reply #720 on: 09:49:56, 23-02-2008 » |
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Erm, I'd almost forgotten that concept on this board...  Tommo |
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Made by Thompson & son, at the Violin & c. the West end of St. Paul's Churchyard, LONDON
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« Reply #721 on: 14:04:43, 23-02-2008 » |
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We note that number 118 - which we think might have been something of Satie - has now expired, and we await with interest its setter's disclosure of the solution.
Let us give a hint or two for our own number 134: the passage - is it not very original? - comes at the very end of a Piano Concerto by a Russian!
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« Reply #722 on: 18:08:27, 23-02-2008 » |
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We note that number 118 - which we think might have been something of Satie - has now expired, and we await with interest its setter's disclosure of the solution.
Let us give a hint or two for our own number 134: the passage - is it not very original? - comes at the very end of a Piano Concerto by a Russian!
Well, you could have tried a little harder, and sooner. Puzzle 118 was indeed an extract from a work by Eric Satie, who you no doubt recall had a Scottish mother. The work in question is "Le Fils des Étoiles", in the edition prepared and played by Steffen Schleiermacher, rather than that prepared by Robert Gaby or by Christopher Hobbs. It is from the 2nd Act, "l'Initiation" that the clip was extracted. |
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« Reply #723 on: 18:22:55, 23-02-2008 » |
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Just because a work falls out side the limited repertoire of one or two (again the same two) members here, does not mean it falls out side the repertoire of others.
Just for the records I would like to state that I take exception to this remark. A |
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« Reply #724 on: 18:26:12, 23-02-2008 » |
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Just because a work falls out side the limited repertoire of one or two (again the same two) members here, does not mean it falls out side the repertoire of others.
Just for the records I would like to state that I take exception to this remark. A Well, if the cap fits ... I too have a limited repertoire, outside which many works represented in Puzzles fall. |
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« Reply #725 on: 19:02:12, 23-02-2008 » |
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You have only accused one pair of anything like this, you have to be referring to us.
I would still state that some of the weird noises I hear on these message boards are not standard repertoire, whilst my (according to you) strange ones are Faure, Ravel, Delius, Suk and Elgar. I thought all musicians had heard of these people.
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« Reply #726 on: 20:01:18, 23-02-2008 » |
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The big difference is, you dismiss what is outside your repertoire. I simply avoid attempting Puzzles that I recognise as falling outside mine. Where have I dismissed as "strange"? I am no great fan of Fauré's music. His Requiem is not to be found among the CDs on my shelves, for instance. However, I know others who appreciate his muse. Good for them. As to Delius, I am very fond of the 'cello and the double concertos, and find other of his orchestral music quite pleasant. However, I would not go out of my way to hear it. Ravel, Suk and Elgar are, all three, composers whose work I have enthusiastically engaged in discussion of on these and the BBC's boards, over the years. Indeed, I am one of the few to defend La Valse and Bolero in numerous discussions. In a early discussion over at TOP I strongly recommended "The Ripening" and "Asrael". When I learned of the recording of Karg Elert's piano arrangement of Elgar's First Symphony being recorded, I was one one who raised the matter on the BBC boards.
No, A. It is you, and Baz, come to that, who take time out to denigrate the repertoire appreciated by others, not me. Your moaning is very much a case of 'mote and beam', as John Bird would say, in his best Idi Amin voice.
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« Reply #727 on: 20:05:52, 23-02-2008 » |
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Tony - as a matter of interest, is 149 performed by the Berlin Phil ?
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« Reply #728 on: 20:11:20, 23-02-2008 » |
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Well, you could have tried a little harder, and sooner. Puzzle 118 was indeed an extract from a work by Eric Satie . . . Hmmm . . . you are we see it now of course right . . . By the way is not Le Fils des Étoiles rather a borderline case? In our Concise Oxford Dictionary of Music it as incidental music appears under the heading "Stage"; not as clearly out of order as Perchance to Dream though of course. |
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« Reply #729 on: 20:19:30, 23-02-2008 » |
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149 is not the Berlin Phil I'm afraid, Autoharp.
I like the change in rule that allows us to have a guess without losing points. I must admit that I've been reluctant to have a go for fear of losing points. But I don't like the idea of having to point to a performance in the last year. I know that I would not be able to do that for the three I've just put up.
I was a little nervous that my first three would be spotted straight away, but nearly an hour has passed so either they are not as easy as I said they would be or no one is interested! Assuming it's not the latter it goes to show that what I might consider to be standard repertoire is not so for everyone else. Even so, I can sympathize with Baz and A because whereas I could have a guess at Schubert, Beethoven, et al, I certainly found it difficult to do so with more recent works, even though it's been an education.
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« Reply #730 on: 20:24:15, 23-02-2008 » |
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149 is not the Berlin Phil I'm afraid, Autoharp.
I thought probably not. My suspicions, however, were aroused by a flautist cutting through everything with forced tone and the occasional sharp note . . . |
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« Reply #731 on: 20:26:38, 23-02-2008 » |
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Re, 151, I'll get me Coates, 'cos I can't remember the title.  Not Coates, I'm afraid Mr Bryn, neither Albert nor Eric. Well I knew it wasn't Gloria.  Ah, but I could have been devious and said it was not Coates, meaning Albert, when it was Eric all along. It reminds me of an acquaintance of mine who told me his favourite composer was Haydn. Then after a pause he said: "That's Joseph, not Michael." |
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« Reply #732 on: 20:38:50, 23-02-2008 » |
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Re, 151, I'll get me Coates, 'cos I can't remember the title. Not Coates, I'm afraid Mr Bryn, neither Albert nor Eric. Well I knew it wasn't Gloria. Ah, but I could have been devious and said it was not Coates, meaning Albert, when it was Eric all along. It reminds me of an acquaintance of mine who told me his favourite composer was Haydn. Then after a pause he said: "That's Joseph, not Michael." Well he Wood, wouldn't he. |
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« Reply #733 on: 20:55:11, 23-02-2008 » |
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Well, you could have tried a little harder, and sooner. Puzzle 118 was indeed an extract from a work by Eric Satie . . . Hmmm . . . you are we see it now of course right . . . By the way is not Le Fils des Étoiles rather a borderline case? In our Concise Oxford Dictionary of Music it as incidental music appears under the heading "Stage"; not as clearly out of order as Perchance to Dream though of course. I have only ever heard it on CD or in a concert situation; never staged. I have the Christopher Hobbs edition of the score, and he has only ever performed it in concert and in the recording studio, to my knowledge. |
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« Reply #734 on: 20:55:29, 23-02-2008 » |
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I would still state that some of the weird noises I hear on these message boards are not standard repertoire, whilst my (according to you) strange ones are Faure, Ravel, Delius, Suk and Elgar. I thought all musicians had heard of these people.
Here you go again with your "weird noises"  - but just for the record I think I can regard myself as a musician and I can't bring to mind ever having taken notice of anything by either Fauré or Suk, plus I certainly have no recordings or for that matter scores of anything by Delius or Elgar, and my knowledge of Ravel is pretty sketchy. I have a pretty good memory for music I've heard at least once before, and the vast majority of these snatches are completely unknown to me. Do I complain? |
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