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« Reply #90 on: 19:53:21, 27-01-2008 » |
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Syd's RapidShare is the only thing that works for me.
Do you have "QuickTime" installed? Yes. Ron - I'll have a look next time (when I can cope with the prospect of more frustration). Tommo
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« Reply #91 on: 20:00:51, 27-01-2008 » |
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If you have Quicktime, then Puzzles 2 and 10 should be working. Let me know if they don't and I'll sing them to you over a telephone line.
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« Reply #92 on: 01:14:34, 28-01-2008 » |
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For those curious, here is Janacek's "Danube" Symphony, 1st Movement2nd Movement3rd Movement4th MovementThe piece was left unfinished by Janacek - I think you can hear that. But apparently he considered it nearly finished (it was begun in late 1923) and this "critical realization" of the score was prepared by Leos Faltus and Milos Stedron in 1985. It contains only Janacek's text, and the use of viola d'amore, coloratura soprano and chordal timpani writing were specified by Janacek. It still sounds pretty weird in places though! I don't think you can buy the CD any more but if anyone fancies tracking it down it's Supraphon 11 1522-2 031 (with Sinfonietta, The Wandering of a Litlle Soul, and Schluck und Jau). The performance is by Brno State Philharmonic Orchestra, cond. Frantisek Jilek, sop. Karolina Dvorakova, vla. Jiri Benes.
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« Reply #93 on: 01:38:28, 28-01-2008 » |
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Thanks Stuart. Who are the performers?
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« Reply #94 on: 01:42:31, 28-01-2008 » |
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I've now extended the post above to give the other 3 movements and some details .
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« Reply #95 on: 01:56:49, 28-01-2008 » |
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Still available, it seems.... http://www.amazon.co.uk/Janacek-Sinfonietta-Danube-Leos-Janácek/dp/B00000JKQA/ref=sr_1_104?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1201485307&sr=1-104 For some obscure reason, I'm unable to get the link to load properly: searching for << Janacek Danube >> at Amazon UK should find it...
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« Reply #96 on: 02:14:24, 28-01-2008 » |
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Many thanks Mr. Macrae. We had just popped out and came back to find our wish so soon fulfilled!
Our book (Concise Oxford Dictionary of Music) speaks of a completion by "O. Chlubna."
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« Reply #97 on: 02:36:26, 28-01-2008 » |
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Funny time of night to pop out, Mr Grew. Shopping, was it? I think you might find the CD you mention has been reissued as SU3888-2, Stuart. And it's on a rather attractive special offer at http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//SU38882.htm until precisely tomorrow (actually, that's not very precise at all: I mean Tuesday).
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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« Reply #98 on: 03:17:34, 28-01-2008 » |
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Speaking of funny times of night Member Time is Now we wonder whether the works of Vladimir Tarnopolscy of Dniepropetrovsc ring a bell. His oeuvre includes " The Breath of Exhausted Time" and the opera " When Time Overflows its Banks." We have heard the first and found it very formulaic with its curious title and utter avoidance of rhythm and melody. But at least it uses pitched instruments so we should we suppose be thankful for small mercies - and it contrives to be disturbing in a funny way. His music, we read on his web-site, "combines in a paradoxical manner two aesthetic aspects. The first is a search for a new euphony, developed on the basis of a complexly constructed sound material, which abolishes the juxtaposition between consonance and dissonance, sound and noise, harmony and timbre, as well as electronic and acoustic instruments. The second is a refined post-modernist theatricality, filled with either a joyful irony or a surrealistic grotesquerie." That last sentence in particular is simply Shorticowitch reheated. Remark the lower lip - it is of a form once termed "sensuous" is not it?
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« Reply #99 on: 04:51:38, 28-01-2008 » |
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Our book (Concise Oxford Dictionary of Music) speaks of a completion by "O. Chlubna."
Yes, that's right, a pupil of Janáček's, the same Osvald Chlubna who (with another Janáček pupil, Břetislav Bakala) "completed" (i.e. comprehensively reworked and rescored) From the House of the Dead. There's a recording of Chlubna's completion of Dunaj conducted by Bakala on the Czech Multisonic label (a 1950s mono recording with the Brno Radio Symphony Orchestra). It was reissued in 2004 as Multisonic 31 0184-2, but seems once again to be unavailable. However, it comes up in its earlier incarnation on amazon.co.uk: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Jan%C3%A1cek-Orchestral-Works-Leos/dp/B00000JD9H/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1201495145&sr=8-3It's worth acquiring also for Bakala's accounts of the Sinfonietta and Taras Bulba. The completion of Dunaj, however, is rather free, overblown and un-Janáčkian, and it lacks the soprano solo that features so strikingly in the more recent Faltus/Štědroň completion. Here's what the liner notes have to say about Chlubna's completion: [...] his reconstruction exceeded the limits of a simple posthumous restoration respecting Janáček's style. The resulting work had a logical form but due to the changes in instrumentation, and some additions, it lost the authenticity of a Janáček score. This notwithstanding, it was accepted in this form as a possible solution of the problem which Janáček had left behind unresolved [...]
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« Reply #100 on: 08:50:59, 28-01-2008 » |
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I don't think you can buy the CD any more but if anyone fancies tracking it down it's Supraphon 11 1522-2 031 (with Sinfonietta, The Wandering of a Litlle Soul, and Schluck und Jau). The performance is by Brno State Philharmonic Orchestra, cond. Frantisek Jilek, sop. Karolina Dvorakova, vla. Jiri Benes. That CD appeared in a set of three claiming to represent the complete orchestral music of Leos Janacek. Though the recordings of well known world in the set seem to my ear unlikely to be anyone's first choice for those works, the set is particularly useful for the rarities it contains. A couple of years ago it was among those being cleared from stocks at the Supraphon warehouse, it appear, for that is when I got is at bargain price in a promotion of a wide range of their releases which have since become rather hard to find. There is also a recording of an earlier realization of the score made some time before 1948 by Janacek's pupil, Osvald Chlubna. That version, however, contained rather a lot that was more Chlubna than Janacek. Both these recordings are currently up for grabs here. [Nothing new there. Should have read through a few of the more recent messages first. ]
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« Reply #101 on: 08:57:13, 28-01-2008 » |
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Funny time of night to pop out, Mr Grew. Shopping, was it? I think you might find the CD you mention has been reissued as SU3888-2, Stuart. And it's on a rather attractive special offer at http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//SU38882.htm until precisely tomorrow (actually, that's not very precise at all: I mean Tuesday). Well spotted, t_i_n. I wonder whether these are spruced up remasterings? (I should have read through more messages before posting that last one of mine).
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« Reply #102 on: 09:35:28, 28-01-2008 » |
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The second is a refined post-modernist theatricality, filled with either a joyful irony or a surrealistic grotesquerie." That last sentence in particular is simply Shorticowitch reheated. And a type of comment that is reheated by countless composers and critics in order to give credence to shopping mall music.
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« Reply #103 on: 09:41:49, 28-01-2008 » |
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Many thanks for the recordings, Stuart!
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« Reply #104 on: 09:46:30, 28-01-2008 » |
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Chafers,
The good news is that I got to hear your two snatches. As they are wav files, my iriverplus launched them.
The bad news is that after the second, IE decided to crash.
Ron, the code was 0xc0000005
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