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Author Topic: Re: Anonymity/Pseudonyms on MBs  (Read 1260 times)
Baz
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« Reply #75 on: 20:00:32, 09-07-2008 »

I don't believe I did misunderstand them - but that is my last word on that issue.

I take that then as your one and only "reply" to the PM I sent you all those weeks ago? If that is the case I cannot understand how, when we first met at that initial gathering, I thought you were such a nice man.

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« Reply #76 on: 21:06:26, 09-07-2008 »

Is this not all getting rather unnecessarily heated? I logged on this evening wondering what interesting and/or amusing things had turned up today and found all this acrimony about pseudonyms.

Ian has at various points described more than a few members of this board in quite insulting terms, and now "cowards" has been added to the list. If I felt the way Ian seems to about so many r3ok members I wouldn't bother coming here. I wonder why he does.
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« Reply #77 on: 21:12:39, 09-07-2008 »

No point in stoking a fire you want to see go out, Richard. The issue in question that Baz was raising was to do with coloured immigrants - I do not engage with intelligent people who express such views; I don't know about you. And bearing in mind your own frequent insulting comments towards myself, Sydney, John, Simon Sagt and others (not to mention towards the posters at TOP, whilst continuing to post there), your views are choice, to say the least. And I know you like to make grand pronouncements about subjects you don't understand, books you've never read, theories you've never studied, with chest-thumping rhetoric as hollow as the statements themselves, especially when you can hold court amongst those not in a position to know better and thus likely to be taken in by the apparent erudition, but that doesn't make any challenge to such pig-headedness merely 'intellectual one up-manship'.
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« Reply #78 on: 21:46:35, 09-07-2008 »

I did once have a beard, Bryn, for a whole 8 years - bad, bad idea.

Pistols at six, then!

Unusually, I joined this forum when my name was mentioned in despatches on one of the threads. If anybody is in any doubt, my name is REX LAWSON. I play the pianola. What's a pianola? - no, no, I've already started that thread and I mean to extend it gently, over the coming months. Look it up.

However, I enjoy using a pseudonym. It's fun to be known as Pianola. It's a very simple and harmless pleasure. I'm not trying to hide behind it, but if someone is shy for any reason, I'm happy to let them be. They are all fellow human beings - love them for what they are. Sydney Grew using the royal "we" is fun. We can refer to him as "Messrs Grew" or "The Grews". Baz's monosyllabic grunt no doubt gives us a similar glimpse of his oh-so-snobbish soul.

But the slur on beards is really serious. I've had my beard since the summer of 1972, and it's been with me to all my concerts. Never once have I got it caught in the works. Mrs Pianola sometimes sleeps on it, to my chagrin, which stops me turning over. You have no idea how much you want to turn over when you can't.

We've had enough about pseudonyms - the subject has been well and truly hung out to dry. But beards on the other hand. Let's hijack the thread. How many of you have got beards? Pianola wants to know. You are allowed to reply in a plain brown posting.
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« Reply #79 on: 21:56:09, 09-07-2008 »

Pianola, I have to admit that I don't have a beard. But I know you will not think less of me for admitting that Grin
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« Reply #80 on: 21:56:46, 09-07-2008 »

But the slur on beards is really serious. I've had my beard since the summer of 1972, and it's been with me to all my concerts. Never once have I got it caught in the works. Mrs Pianola sometimes sleeps on it, to my chagrin, which stops me turning over. You have no idea how much you want to turn over when you can't.

We've had enough about pseudonyms - the subject has been well and truly hung out to dry. But beards on the other hand. Let's hijack the thread. How many of you have got beards? Pianola wants to know. You are allowed to reply in a plain brown posting.

Is there a reason why beards have been particularly prominent amongst men on the far left?
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« Reply #81 on: 22:00:29, 09-07-2008 »

REX LAWSON: what a lovely surprise! I've been to one of your lectures. It was in Rotterdam more than ten years ago. You entered the concert hall (with a very long beard indeed!) and you said: "Ik ben niet Sinterklaas!"* Very funny! It was an interesting and inspiring lecture with beautiful music by Prokofiev. Many thanks for joining this message board.

All good wishes,

Pim Derks (my real name Wink )

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« Reply #82 on: 22:11:55, 09-07-2008 »

Some people already know who I am but until then, I prefer to remain anonymous or semi-anonymous.
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« Reply #83 on: 22:12:18, 09-07-2008 »

Rex Lawson.  This is Anna Edbrooke-Gibson.  Suddenly the Posh Welsh One.  Let us throw caution to the winds and abandon our anonymity and bare our souls together.

On the subject of beards.  I do not have one.  However, I have a distinct soft spot for a bearded man and also that little ginger haired man who lives in a brown paper bag who tickles Gossamer Beynon's centre although she declares she do not care he is common, as long as he is all cucumbers and hooves.  She feels his goatbeard tickle her in the middle of the world like a tuft of wiry fire, and she turns in a terror of delight away from his whips and whiskery conflagration, and sits down in the kitchen to a plate heaped high with chips and the kidneys of lambs.  To the uninitiated that's Dylan.  Thomas.  Not the rabbit from Magic Roundabout.  Although it could be.  I always wondered about him.

Let's talk about beards.  Personally, as facial hair is mainly a masculine trait, I think men should be adorned.  And, what a pain it must be to shave every morning.  Also, as my Pa was a bit surreal, we had a pianola.  Rex!  beards, pianola, brown paper bags, we were made for each other.  Except there is a Mrs. Rex.  Give me a mo and I will think of an Oedipus joke!

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« Reply #84 on: 22:14:32, 09-07-2008 »

So it's beards we now have to hang out to dry is it? I was about to say I don't have one, but that isn't strictly true, although I can well understand if Pianola would not regard it as in any way describable by the same word as his own resplendent specimen. Mine could easily get lost in Morticia's envelope*. It is about two centimetres long by one wide, and is quite often more or less indistinguishable from the surrounding stubble, since I tend to shave about twice a week normally.

*That's enough from you, Thompson.
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« Reply #85 on: 22:24:14, 09-07-2008 »

Lots to think about here which I've never before seen occasion to think about.

I have nothing against pseudonyms, though I think I can see what Ian is objecting to -- still, I wouldn't have complained about it in such strong terms even if I did wholeheartedly agree.

There are several reasons to use a pseudonym. Being in the end a coward may well be one of them, but it might be something so simple as exploiting one rare opportunity to choose one's own name and seeing it as a bit of a shame to use one's real name when given such an chance to call oneself whatever one likes.

Also, if my employer knew how many times I've posted here, it wouldn't exactly improve my standing in his/her eyes.
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« Reply #86 on: 22:27:31, 09-07-2008 »

It is about two centimetres long by one wide, and is quite often more or less indistinguishable from the surrounding stubble, since I tend to shave about twice a week normally.

*That's enough from you, Thompson.

Lord Abertawe, the size of mans beard is immaterial, but what's that in inches then Bach?  A man who monitors his beard in centimetres is, I think, a true European.  Alas, the rest of us cannot adjust to the Euro let alone hirsute centimetres.
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« Reply #87 on: 22:28:21, 09-07-2008 »

Much as we appreciate the laudable attempt to lighten the tone here, the Moderation team would like to draw members' attention to the following excerpts from the board's rules:

Please remember that we do not want to have to moderate anything, or ban anyone.  We want to have a board that isn't overly moderated, where people feel comfortable to express their opinions without fear of being moderated.  However, when someone's opinions make this board a less enjoyable place for the majority of users, we need to act.

Added 28-11-2007:

8.  Where members choose to use a pseudonym that must be respected. A member may of course choose to post information which reveals his/her own off-board identity. Posts revealing the identity of a member other than the poster will be removed should that member complain. The moderators may also remove such information without warning should they feel it necessary.


The concept of anonymity is expressly covered in our rules: it is part of our board's fabric. These rules were last amended on 21. iv. 07.

 The posting immediately following the emendation might prove of interest:

Thanks to Michael for clarifying matters and issuing an eminently reasonable set of rules.
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« Reply #88 on: 22:29:11, 09-07-2008 »

How many of you have got beards? Pianola wants to know. You are allowed to reply in a plain brown posting.

Yes, I have a beard.  Trimmed rather than luxuriant, but these days I am rather better endowed with hair on the chin than I am on the top of the head.  I first grew it as a student in 1981 - in Llandudno, as it happens (which is not where I was studying but where I happened to be at the time I threw off the tyranny of the razor).

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« Reply #89 on: 22:32:20, 09-07-2008 »

Morticia, I daresay you must be a right-winger, then.  Grin

I'm not sure about the left-wing and beards, Ian. Bernard Shaw had a good beard, of course, and he was a very keen Pianola player as well. Aha, you didn't know that bit, did you? If you did, you've been cheating and looking at the page on Pianolists at the Pianola Institute website. Lenin and Stalin didn't, not that they played the Pianola, of course. But Mussolini didn't either, and he was a Pianola player. Perhaps it's the combination of leftwingery and pianoladom that causes the growth.

And Pim, dank U wel! In view of the sensible advice I've had from the powers that be, I'll put some Prokofiev up here at the weekend, if I remember. By the way, watch out for your new Director of Music at the RPhO - you are in for some wonderful music-making. You may see me there in the audience from time to time - we could have a beer in the nice café next door!

Anna, you just appeared. I must be brief, my allotted time us all but up. Somewhere, in Milk Wood, there is a pianola. Is it Organ Morgan who plays it? I can't remember - perhaps you will know. And as for Antheil - well, we need a whole thread for the Ballet Mécanique. We used to take a pianola on to the station platform at Blenau ffestiniog and play in between trains. I met one of my dearest friends doing that - he has a grand pianola up in the Welsh hills. There was a special arrangement of "Land of my Fathers" for Pianola, but in 35 years I've never found it.

And to everyone else, including the eminently wise moderators, I'll read your replies on Saturday. I hope that the admissions of beardyness or otherwise don't contravene the very reasonable forum rules.

Away till then,

xxx from Pianola
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