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« Reply #3780 on: 02:32:47, 08-08-2008 »

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« Reply #3781 on: 07:43:18, 08-08-2008 »

This is the wrong thread but I don't know where to post it.

The Times has today picked up on an article in BBC Music magazine that GCSE students can now gain an A Grade without having to read or write a note of music.

Article is here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/education/article4481222.ece
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« Reply #3782 on: 08:15:54, 08-08-2008 »

I find it interesting that there is discussion of the yawning gulf between GCSE and AS levels but not between A and degree levels.
Judging by the standards of incoming students to Durham, I find that the A-Level curriculum does not adequately prepare students for a degree in music. They may be able to point out a middle C, but can they tell you what a perfect fifth higher is, or write down a short melody after three repetitions? Can they realise basic figured bass? Can they read alto clef? Can they improvise confidently? Can they perform prepared pieces in a concert situation? I could go on.

Things are different in Scotland, and I have no idea what the curriculum for the Highers is like. We have an extra year to prepare the students, but for some it is a losing battle. There is no golden bullet. They are being failed by the curriculum, and this results, despite our best efforts, in us failing them (in every sense).

But then you get those students who come on so much over a few years, or students who already arrive with such confidence and ability, and students who write extraordinary things (in words and in notes), and it makes it worthwhile. My worry is that, on reading that report, there will be some people who suggest that the AS and A level syllabi are too focused on notation...
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« Reply #3783 on: 10:24:16, 08-08-2008 »

The Times article comes as no surprise to me.  I don't want to get into "when I were a lad" comparisons, but, as I have said here before, the GCSE strikes me as ludicrously easy compared with the old O-level syllabus.  And the Sixth Form colleges around here seem to think the same thing; the sixth-form college my daughter will attend from September has a clear policy that a pass at GCSE is not enough to get on the AS music course, and students are expected to have a minmum of Grade 5 theory and Grade 5 on an instrument. The Head of Music's talk at the open evening left no-one in any doubt that he considered the GCSE a non-qualification.
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« Reply #3784 on: 22:59:10, 08-08-2008 »

I'm being busy at the moment. Tonight I met up for a drink with an old school friend who I hadn't seen for five years, tomorrow I have to journey to the Cambridge vicinity to join up with holidaying rest of family to visit relatives, and then from Sunday until Monday 18th I'm going to at least one Prom a day Shocked. My practice time is going down the drain Sad
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« Reply #3785 on: 23:46:12, 08-08-2008 »

I'm tired.
It's been a long day and an emotional evening.
I shouldn't let myself get like this really.
Regrets, self-pity and a gnawing anger.
It would be easier if I cried more easily.
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« Reply #3786 on: 23:56:05, 08-08-2008 »

Channel it, hh: write it out of yourself, verbally or musically. Emotions are the raw material of art: don't squander them on self-pity.
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« Reply #3787 on: 23:59:52, 08-08-2008 »

Ron's idea really does work, I speak with lots of experience. But if you want to cry, I can recommend the third movement of Shostakovich's 2nd Piano Trio. It works without fail for me.
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« Reply #3788 on: 00:04:24, 09-08-2008 »

The slow movement of the Schubert Quintet never fails to wring tears out of me.  Cry

Crying can be very therapeutic and a huge release of tension, especially if you fall asleep straight afterwards.  People have to grieve in their own way and it takes as long as it takes - unfortunately.  Just go with it and let the emotions flow over you, if you can, in a detached way as if you're watching them from a distance.  Difficult, but makes you feel better.
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« Reply #3789 on: 09:22:50, 09-08-2008 »

O yes the adagio of that Schibert piece. One of my favourite chamber music pieces.


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« Reply #3790 on: 18:23:06, 10-08-2008 »

Surprised not to see any comment from Anty about the Welsh gold medal ?
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« Reply #3791 on: 19:17:01, 10-08-2008 »

Surprised not to see any comment from Anty about the Welsh gold medal ?

Having just seen the weather conditions in which the race was run, I can see why a Welsh background was an advantage ....  Wink
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« Reply #3792 on: 19:36:25, 10-08-2008 »

Surprised not to see any comment from Anty about the Welsh gold medal ?

Having just seen the weather conditions in which the race was run, I can see why a Welsh background was an advantage ....  Wink

Wales enjoys good natural circulation of air, ensuring very high air quality.

No severely violent storms or similar natural disasters have ever been recorded in the Principality and rain is infrequently recorded.  Slight Zephyrs are not unknown.
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« Reply #3793 on: 19:45:26, 10-08-2008 »

... rain is infrequently recorded.


That's because the rain gauges  are always overflowing.
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« Reply #3794 on: 19:50:34, 10-08-2008 »

... rain is infrequently recorded.


That's because the rain gauges  are always overflowing.

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