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« Reply #165 on: 11:17:36, 27-11-2007 » |
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We have looked at the first message of this thread and if for a moment we may be permitted to descend to the vernacular we would like simply to say that it is total bollocks.
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We pass this way but once. This is not a rehearsal!
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« Reply #166 on: 11:20:43, 27-11-2007 » |
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i'm not sure repetition even exists.
I'm not sure that difference exists. What do you think. M Deleuze? That identity not be first, that it exist as a principle but as a second principle, as a principle become; that it revolve around the Different: such would be the nature of a Copernican revolution which opens up the possibility of difference having its own concept, rather than being maintained under the domination of a concept in general already understood as identical. |
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« Reply #167 on: 11:21:54, 27-11-2007 » |
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I was going to post some thoughts on here about this project in particular and my experiences of similar projects and non-projects (ie life experiences) in general. Also about my sympathies with SOME of the view points of ALL posters here. But... since I am neither going to 'rah, 'rah, 'rah nor grump, grump, grump I'll keep them to myself.  eh, ros?  I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts. |
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« Reply #169 on: 11:43:55, 27-11-2007 » |
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total bollocks
Interestingly enough, precisely the same words used thirty years ago by that conscientious educationalist, my secondary school music teacher, to describe the (then) entire oeuvre of Pierre Boulez ... And my parents were paying good money for that kind of insight  |
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At every one of these [classical] concerts in England you will find rows of weary people who are there, not because they really like classical music, but because they think they ought to like it. (Shaw, Don Juan in Hell)
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« Reply #170 on: 11:54:02, 27-11-2007 » |
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Words to that effect have been used to describe all manner of compositions through the ages. Riots have occurred! Think Rite of Spring.
We live in an age of Turner Prize pickled cows, unmade beds and 4.33. All in the name of art and music. It's difficult to come to terms with it all - well I find it so. I was discussing it with a colleague and he said that really nowadays there's nowhere else to go. We've done all the best music and the old masters.....
I'm not sure I agree - in fact I don't. Perhaps it is an age thing.
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« Reply #171 on: 12:02:49, 27-11-2007 » |
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I was discussing it with a colleague and he said that really nowadays there's nowhere else to go. We've done all the best music and the old masters.....
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« Reply #172 on: 12:11:00, 27-11-2007 » |
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I just find it amazing how everyone, my so called friends included , now think I was just throwing a tantrum.
I didn't think it was a tantrum, even though I can't claim to be your friend, I still belong among the 'everyone'. I posted about it on another thread (the one for people who hate new music). Don't be discouraged, A. |
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« Reply #173 on: 12:24:01, 27-11-2007 » |
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We have looked at the first message of this thread and if for a moment we may be permitted to descend to the vernacular we would like simply to say that it is total bollocks.
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« Reply #174 on: 12:26:32, 27-11-2007 » |
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« Reply #175 on: 12:31:01, 27-11-2007 » |
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A, I would echo what Chaffers has just said - don`t be discouraged. There should be room for everyone and their opinions here, without people feeling that they are being insulted or victimised. However, being human beings, often with passionately held views things can become heated at times. I would hope that some measure of peace is reigning now and that people will feel able to continue to contribute their opinions, knowledge and experience here. Not to mention humour ...
Btw chaps, a very impressive b*****ks count here this morning!
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« Reply #176 on: 12:34:10, 27-11-2007 » |
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And just because I support A wholeheartedly doesn't mean I'm no longer left wanting a better explanation of what she finds so incredibly offensive about MLK and his ILK. This is something I need to find out more about myself.
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« Reply #177 on: 12:34:49, 27-11-2007 » |
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Why has everyone (well, not everyone, but almost) started swearing all of a sudden? This is most uncharacteristic. What happened to good old-fashioned words of disparagement such as 'poppycock', 'nonsense', and 'rubbish'? Or for that matter modest formulations such as "I can't claim to be an expert on the subject, but...", "I'm afraid I don't understand, could you explain what you mean please?" or even "IMO/IMHO"... In which spirit, anyone got a dunce's hat? I can hardly begin to imagine what the following text is supposed to mean! That identity not be first, that it exist as a principle but as a second principle, as a principle become; that it revolve around the Different: such would be the nature of a Copernican revolution which opens up the possibility of difference having its own concept, rather than being maintained under the domination of a concept in general already understood as identical.
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« Reply #178 on: 12:35:29, 27-11-2007 » |
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We have looked at the first message of this thread and if for a moment we may be permitted to descend to the vernacular we would like simply to say that it is total bollocks.
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Well, there you are.
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« Reply #179 on: 12:35:37, 27-11-2007 » |
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I haven't read all of this thread but one comment I have about such projects is that they usually seem to be far more interesting for active participants than for any (relatively uninvolved) audience members.
However it strikes me that, in this project, participants are only getting involved in a fairly minimal way in the creative process - they appear to be providing data to be input into an unknown (to them at least) compositional process to be implemented by MLK. Participants' experiences of the 6 events themselves might be, as several others have suggested, fairly mundane.
Good luck with your project Matthew but I shan't be getting involved because I don't personally find it interesting enough in its present format.
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