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John W
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« on: 10:55:52, 19-02-2007 »

I was mid-post when it closed 10.48am, 19 February 2007
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« Reply #1 on: 11:01:39, 19-02-2007 »

Oh-oh, CMoR3 back again with R3ok link removed  Roll Eyes

Right that's it, I'm going to do some work now..... or prepare a quiz. I'll put the kettle on first. What a life!


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Thank you for the music ...


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« Reply #2 on: 12:59:58, 19-02-2007 »

The whole business seems rather sinister. Of course, just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get me Undecided

Then again, after finding that a recent posting (immediately after another of my own) has disappeared without trace, what am I to think?

Very peculiar! Now you see it ... now you don't.
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« Reply #3 on: 14:05:38, 19-02-2007 »

I've just been back over there again, and it's a bit of a mess, so many messages from folk looking for the archived boards.

And after Roger Wright saying in his newsletter look out for other independent forums discussing Radio 3, there is nowhere for us to post a link  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: 14:41:03, 19-02-2007 »

Kitty, your wondrousness knows no bounds. Many, many thanks. Smiley

For generations to come friends of Waffle will speak of your chronicling task in hushed tones of admiration.
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« Reply #5 on: 17:06:50, 19-02-2007 »

Thank you Oliver. You are too kind.

I fear the majority will either use unprintable language, or be mutterers like yours truly.
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« Reply #6 on: 17:14:29, 19-02-2007 »

i just put a link on that other place to here Smiley

tee hee
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« Reply #7 on: 18:24:21, 19-02-2007 »

The whole business seems rather sinister.

Yes indeed : I cannot do a link as I cannot find it on the Times website, but there was a very thrpughtful article on the Radio / Arts page in the Sunday Times, which coherently questioned the secretive changes on R3.

The last paragraph was very telling about the paranoia of the BBC : stamping out debate in the UK whilst at the same time supporting those against censorship in China etc.

I hope someone can find a direct link online?

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« Reply #8 on: 21:09:32, 19-02-2007 »

Ah well : seems like I'm chatting to myself over here as well !

Here is the Times Article :

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Speak no evilRadio wavesPaul Donovan
George Orwell lived long enough to know the Third Programme; he adapted his own Animal Farm for it. Language that is manipulative and deceitful is now for ever Orwellian. He would have undoubtedly recognised some of the ways in which the Third’s successor, Radio 3, has sought to neutralise hostility and influence reaction to its controversial new schedule, which began yesterday.

Its changes are many. Nine shows have been axed. Another five have been moved. Apart from the Proms and other special seasons, and the last act of some New York operas, there will be no live music after 7pm. Late Junction is reduced, Discovering Music extended. There will be a new weekday breakfast host, six new series and afternoon opera.

Well aware that some of this was attacked when partly leaked last November, the BBC has acted decisively. All the main Radio 3 message boards — forums for listeners to give their opinions and let off steam — will be closed from tomorrow. Radio Times and Radio 3’s official announcement of the changes carry not a word about the abolished shows. There was no explanation beforehand as to why they had to go, and no mention of them afterwards. They have just been swept away. Those who laboured on them are presumably now nonpersons. The fact that it was the final edition of all these shows was deliberately left out of all billings and press information. Roger Wright, the controller of Radio 3, has declined to appear on Feedback to defend himself, and ignored the changes in his monthly newsletter.

Chilling, and there is more. Mark Russell, who was the co-host, with Robert Sandall, of Mixing It, which for 16 years featured experimental and improvised music, says on his blog: “Some listeners wondered why Robert and I didn’t make a statement on air. The reason is because it wouldn’t have been broadcast. We recorded our final show yesterday, a few hours before it was broadcast. A BBC senior editor sat through the whole thing. I can’t ever remember that happening before.”

I asked Radio 3 a simple question: Why is Penny Gore being replaced as weekday breakfast presenter by Rob Cowan? The reply, in full, was: “Penny has been presenting Morning on 3 for over six years and will now be part of the team of presenters across Afternoons on 3”. Judge for yourself if that is an answer.

Two years ago, the Advertising Standards Authority upheld a complaint against Radio 3 for a poster campaign that promised “A live concert every night”. It now bills its recorded concerts “as live” or “live as live”. When will it stop using these nonsensical weasel words and acknowledge that a performance is either live or recorded, and that live means simultaneous?

Many Radio 3 shows remain the same, as does the overall seriousness and the mix of speech and music. Some of the innovations look terrific. Last week’s Tchaikovsky and Stravinsky season, though not always showing how the two were connected, was a joy. But why is Radio 3 so creepy in the way it treats presenters and listeners alike, and why is it so keen to highlight dissent if it is in a comfortably far-off place such as Turkey or China, while making every attempt to squash it when it is rather nearer to home?
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Soooo true
and a sad comment on the current world of R3.

MK

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« Reply #9 on: 10:04:39, 20-02-2007 »

Well, the posters over at the R3MB site are certainly testing the moderators - there are now over 20 un-related discussions going on in the Music Matters board!  Tongue

Boult's batons, Bach's Toccata, Left-handed violinists (Host named Charlie Chaplin as example), Andy Kershaw. It's a free for all!!

Not much moderation yet then, but as the mish-mash of unrelated threads grows something will have to be done to bring some order to it all  Cool
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« Reply #10 on: 10:13:16, 20-02-2007 »

John, did you spot my reply to SS! on the Breakfast board re. Professional Competence certification for bus and lorry drivers? Can't get much more OT than that. ;-)
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John W
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« Reply #11 on: 10:39:32, 20-02-2007 »

Nope.

I've looked at the 'Breakfast' as they call it even looked at 'your discussions' can't fond Professional Competence. Was that the thread?

John W

P.S. A 'your discussions' facility (I mean 'somebody else's discussions' facility) on THIS board is not accessible while profiles are locked, is that right?

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« Reply #12 on: 10:43:35, 20-02-2007 »

Note that a host here http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbradio3/F6643900?thread=3904147&skip=20&show=20#p45855757 is getting a bit itchy about a drift off-"topic".
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« Reply #13 on: 10:59:40, 20-02-2007 »

Doesn't that just reek of a certain arrogant expectation that people are actually going to want to listen to the waffly slots with interest? Not very clever when nearly all the worthwhile programmes have been summarily culled....
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« Reply #14 on: 11:03:11, 20-02-2007 »

Note that a host ........... is getting a bit itchy about a drift off-"topic".

Yes! The clamp-down will now commence!!!!!!!!!!!!


and oh-oh, new thread,  Bryn has just fired a broadside, duck!  Shocked
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