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Wasabi peas, my mollycoddled-tastebudded friend.
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« Reply #91 on: 20:45:35, 08-08-2007 » |
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Wasabi peas, my mollycoddled-tastebudded friend. Yes, wasabi peas are quite tasty (although they have the marked side effect of making it impossible for my wife to be within two rooms of me or them). I am a bit concerned about that "Kasugai Peas & You", though. Who is this "You"? And why is he or she in a bag of peas? is it Aaron that's in the bag of peas?
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« Reply #92 on: 20:50:11, 08-08-2007 » |
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I assumed that the bag of peas came packaged with an informative brochure, entitled "Kasugai Peas and You," that explains the benefits and dangers of wasabi peas.
Pro: They ease the pain of insufficiently debugged notation software.
Con: They estrange you from your loved ones.
Make sure you know the ups and downs of wasabi peas before making a decision.
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« Reply #93 on: 20:56:24, 08-08-2007 » |
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Ups: a series of controlled and rather pleasurable (indeed sometimes euphoria-inducing) explosions in the sinus area, especially when consumed by the handful. Downs: well, no one has to share my personal space so I think I'm in the clear. (You may well say, Ollie, the night is but young! Alas, Ollie isn't. )
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« Reply #94 on: 09:28:38, 25-10-2007 » |
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Sibelius 5.1 is available to all users as a free upgrade from today.
Wonder how many problems it will actually sort?.........
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« Reply #95 on: 09:30:01, 25-10-2007 » |
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Sibelius 5.1 is available to all users as a free upgrade from today.
Wonder how many problems it will actually sort?.........
Thanks for that heads-up, Ron. Does that apply to current Sib 3 users?
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« Reply #96 on: 09:32:21, 25-10-2007 » |
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I remain an unrepentant Finale user
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« Reply #97 on: 09:47:54, 25-10-2007 » |
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Sibelius 5.1 is available to all users as a free upgrade from today.
Wonder how many problems it will actually sort?.........
Thanks for that heads-up, Ron. Does that apply to current Sib 3 users? Sorry, no, martle. Only to those who already have shelled out for 5.0. The Mac update is much smaller than that for Windows, which surprises me, since contrary to expectations, 5's been running far better on my PC than my Mac.
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« Reply #98 on: 10:33:11, 25-10-2007 » |
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I've just upgraded the Mac version (the PC's being used for my 3D CAD work at the moment) and given it a quick try. It seems that at least some of the problems are now definitely sorted, thankfully.
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« Reply #99 on: 15:25:16, 12-08-2008 » |
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The latest update, 5.2 is with us now, and appears on early testing to show decided improvements in stability as well as the loading of complex material over the previous versions, particularly when used with complicated sound files. Still feel that it's a pity that it couldn't have been held back and released in this more stable form, rather than being rushed out in its original all-but-beta state.
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« Reply #100 on: 17:13:38, 12-08-2008 » |
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The latest update, 5.2 is with us now, and appears on early testing to show decided improvements in stability as well as the loading of complex material over the previous versions, particularly when used with complicated sound files. Still feel that it's a pity that it couldn't have been held back and released in this more stable form, rather than being rushed out in its original all-but-beta state.
I think I might be getting this soon. My publishers have said they'll buy it for me if I promise to use it for my upcoming orchestra thing. Or Finale. Or something else. I have to get some expert advice. My cursory experiences with Lilypond have led to the conclusion that it would be far too time-consuming to use it for a project like this, even though it looks so much better than any other notation software I've seen.
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« Reply #101 on: 17:32:44, 12-08-2008 » |
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IIRC martle and hh are both Sibelius users and Reiner a Finale man, whilst the Antipodean hooner uses both, so it's pretty obvious who you should speak to first. As far as the actual production goes, I still find that writing into a rough score is the fastest: these programmes all seem to look good immediately, but the tidying up and dealing with all the extras can be a pretty time-consuming slog. On the other hand, the ease of producing parts (no more staying up all night desperately trying to get them done in time) and revising sections is a wonderful advantage.
I don't regret buying Sibelius all those years ago: it would have been all but impossible for me to have produced my biggest score without it, and if you're having it handed to you on a silver plate, well.....
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« Reply #102 on: 17:39:22, 12-08-2008 » |
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Well, I'm still on Sibelius 3 having been far from convinced that the last two upgrades were worth the expenditure. Those Finn boys are certainly not above releasing new versions with very few (or inconsequential) improvements. But I've never regretted going with Sibelius overall. It's very intuitive, I find, and quick. And I've always thought it looks the best in print, especially better than Finale.
It can also handle just about anything in the way of non-conventional notation, although you have to hunt around for solutions sometimes. The backup and help services are good, and there's a great forum for finding nifty solutions to problems, which is well maintained and peopled for the most part by musicians who know what they're on about.
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« Reply #103 on: 17:50:42, 12-08-2008 » |
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it's pretty obvious who you should speak to first. He of course is quite closely acquainted with the music too, but I suppose he's sleeping now. I dare say we'll have the pleasure of his company in a few hours' time though. My last orchestral score and parts were done beautifully by the excellent Messrs Wolff and Okrzeja of Notengrafik Berlin ( here is a page from it, I'm sure I must have posted this before, never mind) using Score, which unbelievably runs only under MS-DOS. I suppose that for the cost of Finale or Sibelius I could buy Score and a second-hand computer to run it on but that would seem a highly inelegant solution. The results look good but the process of entering the information is very laborious and complicated from what I've seen.
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« Reply #104 on: 17:57:12, 12-08-2008 » |
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Score, which unbelievably runs only under MS-DOS. I suppose that for the cost of Finale or Sibelius I could buy Score and a second-hand computer to run it on but that would seem a highly inelegant solution. The results look good but the process of entering the information is very laborious and complicated from what I've seen.
Yes. But I have a feeling it's the sort of package I might 'graduate' to, if it's as good as it was when I was first looking at notation software (sometime c. 1995) because it's flexible. It may be as fiddly as hell but at least it's not trying to make it look 'normal' all the time. I would say that you will find Sibelius' 'helpful features' to be incredibly annoying, but if all you're looking for is a package to input a basic score so that your publisher can tart it up later, then it should be fine. I just want more control. Which is why the piece I'm currently writing will stay on paper. But having said that, everything on that page looks eminently Sibeliusable and it is very easy to use straight out of the box.
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