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Don Basilio
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« Reply #120 on: 23:09:21, 05-05-2008 »

And even I agree with Don B, but special rules apply for warmongers and their staff, I'm afraid.  We're talking about a man who can laugh about the murder of 500+ women and children in Fallujah - and for scum like that, no rules apply.

I didn't know that.  Can you give a link, please?

Before he was an MP, I worked for the same employer as a Steve Pound, and only had one conversation with him, but it was a bit odd.  He worked in another location, and it may not be the same person.
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« Reply #121 on: 04:18:08, 06-05-2008 »


I didn't know that.  Can you give a link, please?


It was a telephone call I had with him, in which he laughed at the suggestion that 500 people had been killed, and accused me of making it up.  Steve Pound MP is a particularly vile man, well-known as a prominent back-bench Blairite.
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« Reply #122 on: 05:44:54, 06-05-2008 »

Did you... really send him a dog turd?

Is that legal?

Should you admit it on a public message board?

Just asking.
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« Reply #123 on: 06:56:01, 06-05-2008 »

Is it legal to overfly Fallujah in helicopters, firebombing the houses so that the civilian population runs out into the streets - and then machine-gunning them when they do?   Then describing the action as a "regrettable necessity".

Is waterboarding legal?  Are CIA secret torture-flights legal? 

We've killed 500,000 people - and we're worrying about a dog-turd?

Oh puhleaze.
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« Reply #124 on: 07:19:14, 06-05-2008 »

... no rules apply.

Including the one about not being counter-productive to the anti-war cause?
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« Reply #125 on: 08:22:26, 06-05-2008 »

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the anti-war cause?

Which has achieved... what?
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« Reply #126 on: 09:01:05, 06-05-2008 »

Well, I had assumed it was meant as a contribution to that cause. Perhaps I misunderstood. If we have just given up on that then, yes, I suppose we may as well send anonymous packets of dog poo to each other.
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« Reply #127 on: 11:21:58, 06-05-2008 »

Much as I respect your advocacy, George, it has to be said that the anti-war movement has achieved diddly-squat.  British Forces remain in Iraq (even after the PM claimed he was withdrawing them).  There is no sign of any Inquiry into how the war was incepted and on what legal basis - nor do I believe there will ever be one. 

I would say what Britain lacks is a Von Stauffenberg, personally.  And no, I am not joking.
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« Reply #128 on: 12:05:27, 06-05-2008 »

Back on topic....

The election of Boris Johnson is BAD NEWS, whatever your political perspective.  The fact that he was not only proposed as a candidate but actually elected should give cause for great pessimism about the future of Britain's politics.  I don't live in London but was talking to a floating voter who does and who claimed to have been impressed by BJ's 'entertaining' campaign.

Well, there you are: being 'entertaining' may just be enough to secure yourself high office in the future.

Not that I have any time for Livingstone, either: the man is just a remnant of a corrupt and discredited decade (the 80s). 

I think London needs a mayor from outside the ranks of conventional two-party politics: a great shame someone like (say) Frederick Forsyth couldn't have been persuaded.
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« Reply #129 on: 12:13:30, 06-05-2008 »

Much as I respect your advocacy, George, it has to be said that the anti-war movement has achieved diddly-squat.  British Forces remain in Iraq (even after the PM claimed he was withdrawing them).  There is no sign of any Inquiry into how the war was incepted and on what legal basis - nor do I believe there will ever be one. 

I would say what Britain lacks is a Von Stauffenberg, personally.  And no, I am not joking.

I hope I won't be receiving a parcel from you, Reiner, but individual acts whether of pooposting or terrorism are almost without exception counterproductive in the pursuit of political objectives, and if your criterion for disdaining the anti-war movement is its failure to stop the war I wonder how you conceive that a better job can be done by canine excreta. It may be a more eloquent expression of your anger, but no large-scale change has ever been brought about in this way: it's an expression of defeat more than anything else.

SwanKnight, Frederick Forsyth's political views make Boris Johnson look completely sane and balanced!
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« Reply #130 on: 12:29:27, 06-05-2008 »

I wonder how you conceive that a better job can be done by canine excreta.

I know you and I have diverging opinions on this topic, RB.  My reply is exactly what you'll be expecting - that the anti-war movement has sat on its hands, knitted rugs, made lentil dip, burned Bolivian beeswax candles in all-night vigils...  and achieved nothing. I include myself within this group, incidentally, and point no fingers.  But history will judge us as impotent, indolent, pushovers, who did nothing whilst genocidal murder was committed, and paid our taxes to fund it.  My mention of Stauffenberg isn't coincidental - we face an evil no less vicious than that of his time.  On the other side of the Atlantic would-be Presidents are vying with each other over the scale with which they plan nuking Iran once appointed.   

And what will we do then - have a Guess-The-Weight-Of-The-Cake contest?

Perhaps we'd better all begin practice saying "Oh mein Gott, how could we have allowed it to happen?".  That's what they did last time.

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« Reply #131 on: 13:44:11, 06-05-2008 »

I hope I won't be receiving a parcel from you, Reiner, but individual acts whether of pooposting or terrorism are almost without exception counterproductive in the pursuit of political objectives
I'm not aware of any situation in which dog poo has changed the course of history (other than when it builds up, causing all sorts of pollutants to gather in the air, causing disease and even sometimes death), but as far as terrorism is concerned, I'm not sure - it depends how one defines it, really. Would the current situation in Northern Ireland (whatever one thinks of it) have developed in the same way without the history of both Loyalist and Republican terrorism? Maybe the bombings in Madrid played a part in 'bringing the war home' and persuading Spanish voters to vote out Aznar? And guerilla movements in various parts of the world (including, arguably, Afghanistan and Vietnam) could be classified as 'terrorists' and played a part in putting pressure on occupying armies to leave those countries? I'm really not sure.

That said, in the current political climate, I reckon Von Stauffenberg style assassinations (assuming they were successful, as Von Stauffenberg's was not) might be as likely to prepare the ground for even more reactionary politicians than are in power at the moment, as part of a backlash.

Reiner, the anti-war movement has done more than burn Bolivian candles and cook lentil dips - it managed to organise the largest demonstration in London for many years, and has been responsible for disseminating plenty of information about the reality of the war in Iraq, thus better informing the people of the truth behind the lies and propaganda. What else would you suggest they should have done (other than perhaps sending 2 million dog poos in the post)?
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« Reply #132 on: 15:28:50, 06-05-2008 »


We've killed 500,000 people - and we're worrying about a dog-turd?

Oh puhleaze.
Not that I'm 'worried' about the turd, but about your admitting this on a public message board. Perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
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« Reply #133 on: 17:03:04, 06-05-2008 »

The only way something might change would be if there was civil war in Britain, and blood ran down Whitehall. (The blood of politicians that is). Otherwise we will continue to be f***** by the war criminals.
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« Reply #134 on: 17:10:34, 06-05-2008 »

The only way something might change would be if there was civil war in Britain, and blood ran down Whitehall.

No, they'd have an Official Inquiry which would discover that nobody had been to blame; everything the Govt had said had been the purest driven-snow truth; no-one had actually died although many had carelessly lost their own lives; the Police, of course, were blameless angels.  But it was clear that Johnny Foreigner had been behind it all, and the RAF was even now preparing to nuke his country to smithereens,  in partnership with our inviolable allies, comrades and superiors - the Americans.
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