The Radio 3 Boards Forum from myforum365.com
09:42:59, 02-12-2008 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: Whilst we happily welcome all genuine applications to our forum, there may be times when we need to suspend registration temporarily, for example when suffering attacks of spam.
 If you want to join us but find that the temporary suspension has been activated, please try again later.
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register  

Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 5
  Print  
Author Topic: Il Trovatore - your all-star cast?  (Read 2737 times)
Il Grande Inquisitor
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 4665



« on: 10:54:56, 24-10-2007 »

It was Enrico Caruso who reputedly stated that all you need to stage Verdi’s Il Trovatore are the four greatest singers in the world. It’s quite a well-known claim, from a singer who performed Manrico fewer than 15 times on stage and it’s repeated in the programme to WNO’s production of the opera currently on tour, which I saw last night in Southampton. Despite the fact that this statement overlooks the important bass role of Ferrando, so important for kicking the whole thing off with some drama and energy, Trovatore is often considered a really difficult opera to cast.

Last night was probably one of the more successful attempts I’ve seen, although I’d qualify that by revealing that the other three stagings I’ve witnessed are the disappointing Elijah Moshinsky one at the ROH, which replaced an even poorer one by Piero Faggioni which I saw back in 1990, and the Payne/Daniel ENO effort of 2001 – not great productions and, apart from Hvorostovksy’s di Luna at the ROH, less than wonderful casting. The singing last night, particularly of the roles of di Luna (Dario Solari) and Leonora (Katia Pellegrino) was remarkably good and it led me to wondering –

If you could cast a performance/ recording of the opera and could choose from any of the singers past and present who you’ve heard (live or on disc), what would your star cast be?


« Last Edit: 11:05:42, 24-10-2007 by Il Grande Inquisitor » Logged

Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency
ernani
***
Gender: Male
Posts: 165



« Reply #1 on: 11:49:56, 24-10-2007 »

Manrico - Jussi Bjorling
Leonora - Leontyne Price
Azucena - Margarete Klose
Du Luna - Pavel Lisitian
Ines - Gundula Janowitz
Ruiz - Alfredo Kraus

Conductor - Claudio Abbado

 Smiley
Logged
Il Grande Inquisitor
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 4665



« Reply #2 on: 12:02:34, 24-10-2007 »

An intriguing selection, ernani, including some real luxury casting of Ines and Ruiz! I haven't heard Abbado conduct Trovatore, but given his La Scala credentials and such wonders as Boccanegra and Macbeth, I'd imagine it would have plenty of Italian fire, which I think this opera needs.

I'm familiar with Leontyne Price through the RCA studio recording and the DG live one from Salzburg. I think her voice has a suitable aristocratic ring for the role of Leonora. Why Bjoerling? I haven't heard much of the others - he doesn't feature in my Verdi collection at all. Lisitsian's was a superb voice from what little I've heard - there is a clip of him singing Il balen in Russian online and he's a singer I've been meaning to try and investigate on disc. Margarete Klose is a new name to me.

Logged

Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency
Swan_Knight
Temporary Restriction
****
Gender: Male
Posts: 428



« Reply #3 on: 12:53:51, 24-10-2007 »

Manrico - Jussi Bjoerling

Leonora - Leontyne Price

Di Luna - Sherill Milnes

Asuczena - Fiorenza Cossotto

Ferrando - Giorgio Tozzi

Logged

...so flatterten lachend die Locken....
opilec
****
Posts: 474



« Reply #4 on: 13:03:56, 24-10-2007 »

If the four (or five) greatest singers are unavailable, three of the world's greatest comedians can also enhance the experience.  Wink

Logged
ernani
***
Gender: Male
Posts: 165



« Reply #5 on: 14:44:55, 24-10-2007 »

An intriguing selection, ernani, including some real luxury casting of Ines and Ruiz! I haven't heard Abbado conduct Trovatore, but given his La Scala credentials and such wonders as Boccanegra and Macbeth, I'd imagine it would have plenty of Italian fire, which I think this opera needs.

I'm familiar with Leontyne Price through the RCA studio recording and the DG live one from Salzburg. I think her voice has a suitable aristocratic ring for the role of Leonora. Why Bjoerling? I haven't heard much of the others - he doesn't feature in my Verdi collection at all. Lisitsian's was a superb voice from what little I've heard - there is a clip of him singing Il balen in Russian online and he's a singer I've been meaning to try and investigate on disc. Margarete Klose is a new name to me.



I forgot Ferrando, GI! It has to be Ezio Pinza, I think.

As for Bjorling, admittedly I'm biased, but he's peerless in this music, hovering ideally between the lyrical and the spinto. Forget his RCA studio recording, where he is somewhat phlegmatic, and try to seek out the recording of his Covent Garden debut as Manrico in 1939 or the Met recording from a year later - glorious singing in both and the former also features Gina Cigna. Klose was a German mezzo/contralto who sung a lot of Wagner, often under Furtwangler. But she was also a superb Verdian. Her Amneris (alongside Max Lorenz's Radames) is available on Walhall, and although sung in German, her sense of the idiom is wonderful and she has the kind of contralto that would do very well as Azucena, I think.
« Last Edit: 15:48:17, 26-10-2007 by ernani » Logged
Il Grande Inquisitor
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 4665



« Reply #6 on: 14:47:04, 24-10-2007 »

Thanks, Swan_Knight, for another interesting list, and to ernani for more thoughts. I think I'm going to have to try and sample Bjoerling's Manrico - I see that the Cellini set is now available on Naxos' Historical label. I have Tozzi's Ferrando on the Decca Erede recording and his is an authoritative account of the narration in the first scene. Price, Milnes and Cossotto are all strong contenders for my selection, I think.
Logged

Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency
opilec
****
Posts: 474



« Reply #7 on: 14:52:49, 24-10-2007 »

For someone who has no recording of Il Trovatore --  Embarrassed -- which recording would you recommend?

I think I've seen it. Once. Quite a long time ago.  Embarrassed  Embarrassed  Embarrassed
Logged
ernani
***
Gender: Male
Posts: 165



« Reply #8 on: 14:56:44, 24-10-2007 »

The RCA with Price, Domingo, Cossotto and Milnes under Metha is a pretty safe bet
Logged
Il Grande Inquisitor
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 4665



« Reply #9 on: 14:59:04, 24-10-2007 »

Well, there's an admission, opi! Now, this might just pre-empt my nominations for star casting, but for genuine red-blooded Italian passion and fire, this is a good starting point:



http://www.amazon.co.uk/Verdi-Il-trovatore-Ettore-Bastianini/dp/B000J233I0/ref=sr_1_1/203-4994897-1606365?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1193234031&sr=1-1 Some bias, as this was my very first operatic LP and my way into Verdi!

The Mehta RCA recording mentioned by ernani was my first version on CD and is also good. If you can still find it, the live Salzburg 1962 account under Karajan is pretty special - Price, Corelli, Bastianini and Simionato all of their very best form.


« Last Edit: 15:03:37, 24-10-2007 by Il Grande Inquisitor » Logged

Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency
opilec
****
Posts: 474



« Reply #10 on: 15:03:52, 24-10-2007 »

The RCA with Price, Domingo, Cossotto and Milnes under Metha is a pretty safe bet

Thanks, ernani! I'm not really too interested in safe -- it needn't be a stereo-era recording. And I do have a slight antipathy to Mehta. Embarrassed But the singers look like good ones, and it seems to be well regarded. A recording that comes with libretto would be handy.

IGI, I'd also noticed and been tempted by the Serafin recording: presumably it comes with just a synopsis?  Sad

Thanks to you both!
Logged
Il Grande Inquisitor
*****
Gender: Male
Posts: 4665



« Reply #11 on: 15:05:18, 24-10-2007 »

IGI, I'd also noticed and been tempted by the Serafin recording: presumably it comes with just a synopsis?  Sad

Yes, just a synopsis, although online libretti for popular operas are not too difficult to find.
Logged

Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency
opilec
****
Posts: 474



« Reply #12 on: 15:11:46, 24-10-2007 »

I went for the Serafin: at a little over a fiver (incl. postage) from a UK-based Amazon marketplace seller it seemed too good to miss!  Smiley

Thanks again!
Logged
ernani
***
Gender: Male
Posts: 165



« Reply #13 on: 15:51:19, 24-10-2007 »

I went for the Serafin: at a little over a fiver (incl. postage) from a UK-based Amazon marketplace seller it seemed too good to miss!  Smiley

Thanks again!

Hope you enjoy it - as GI says, the Serafin is very fine too. And yes, 'safe' is probably not what one would want in a performance of Trovatore     SmileyWink
Logged
Swan_Knight
Temporary Restriction
****
Gender: Male
Posts: 428



« Reply #14 on: 16:21:27, 24-10-2007 »

I once read a hilarious story about someone trying to explain the plot of this opera to Mrs. Thatcher. She kept breaking off to say: 'But that doesn't make sense!' Grin

I think Gardelli would have been a good conductor for this one....shame he never seems to have recorded it.  Embarrassed

And, yes, bad to indifferent productions seem to proliferate for some reason. A friend of mine, who's been going to CG for the last fifty years, tells me they've never had a half-decent production of it.
Logged

...so flatterten lachend die Locken....
Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 5
  Print  
 
Jump to: