Il Grande Inquisitor
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It was Enrico Caruso who reputedly stated that all you need to stage Verdi’s Il Trovatore are the four greatest singers in the world. It’s quite a well-known claim, from a singer who performed Manrico fewer than 15 times on stage and it’s repeated in the programme to WNO’s production of the opera currently on tour, which I saw last night in Southampton. Despite the fact that this statement overlooks the important bass role of Ferrando, so important for kicking the whole thing off with some drama and energy, Trovatore is often considered a really difficult opera to cast.
Last night was probably one of the more successful attempts I’ve seen, although I’d qualify that by revealing that the other three stagings I’ve witnessed are the disappointing Elijah Moshinsky one at the ROH, which replaced an even poorer one by Piero Faggioni which I saw back in 1990, and the Payne/Daniel ENO effort of 2001 – not great productions and, apart from Hvorostovksy’s di Luna at the ROH, less than wonderful casting. The singing last night, particularly of the roles of di Luna (Dario Solari) and Leonora (Katia Pellegrino) was remarkably good and it led me to wondering –
If you could cast a performance/ recording of the opera and could choose from any of the singers past and present who you’ve heard (live or on disc), what would your star cast be?
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« Reply #1 on: 11:49:56, 24-10-2007 » |
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Manrico - Jussi Bjorling Leonora - Leontyne Price Azucena - Margarete Klose Du Luna - Pavel Lisitian Ines - Gundula Janowitz Ruiz - Alfredo Kraus Conductor - Claudio Abbado
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Il Grande Inquisitor
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« Reply #2 on: 12:02:34, 24-10-2007 » |
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An intriguing selection, ernani, including some real luxury casting of Ines and Ruiz! I haven't heard Abbado conduct Trovatore, but given his La Scala credentials and such wonders as Boccanegra and Macbeth, I'd imagine it would have plenty of Italian fire, which I think this opera needs.
I'm familiar with Leontyne Price through the RCA studio recording and the DG live one from Salzburg. I think her voice has a suitable aristocratic ring for the role of Leonora. Why Bjoerling? I haven't heard much of the others - he doesn't feature in my Verdi collection at all. Lisitsian's was a superb voice from what little I've heard - there is a clip of him singing Il balen in Russian online and he's a singer I've been meaning to try and investigate on disc. Margarete Klose is a new name to me.
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« Reply #3 on: 12:53:51, 24-10-2007 » |
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Manrico - Jussi Bjoerling
Leonora - Leontyne Price
Di Luna - Sherill Milnes
Asuczena - Fiorenza Cossotto
Ferrando - Giorgio Tozzi
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« Reply #5 on: 14:44:55, 24-10-2007 » |
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An intriguing selection, ernani, including some real luxury casting of Ines and Ruiz! I haven't heard Abbado conduct Trovatore, but given his La Scala credentials and such wonders as Boccanegra and Macbeth, I'd imagine it would have plenty of Italian fire, which I think this opera needs.
I'm familiar with Leontyne Price through the RCA studio recording and the DG live one from Salzburg. I think her voice has a suitable aristocratic ring for the role of Leonora. Why Bjoerling? I haven't heard much of the others - he doesn't feature in my Verdi collection at all. Lisitsian's was a superb voice from what little I've heard - there is a clip of him singing Il balen in Russian online and he's a singer I've been meaning to try and investigate on disc. Margarete Klose is a new name to me.
I forgot Ferrando, GI! It has to be Ezio Pinza, I think. As for Bjorling, admittedly I'm biased, but he's peerless in this music, hovering ideally between the lyrical and the spinto. Forget his RCA studio recording, where he is somewhat phlegmatic, and try to seek out the recording of his Covent Garden debut as Manrico in 1939 or the Met recording from a year later - glorious singing in both and the former also features Gina Cigna. Klose was a German mezzo/contralto who sung a lot of Wagner, often under Furtwangler. But she was also a superb Verdian. Her Amneris (alongside Max Lorenz's Radames) is available on Walhall, and although sung in German, her sense of the idiom is wonderful and she has the kind of contralto that would do very well as Azucena, I think.
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« Reply #6 on: 14:47:04, 24-10-2007 » |
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Thanks, Swan_Knight, for another interesting list, and to ernani for more thoughts. I think I'm going to have to try and sample Bjoerling's Manrico - I see that the Cellini set is now available on Naxos' Historical label. I have Tozzi's Ferrando on the Decca Erede recording and his is an authoritative account of the narration in the first scene. Price, Milnes and Cossotto are all strong contenders for my selection, I think.
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« Reply #7 on: 14:52:49, 24-10-2007 » |
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For someone who has no recording of Il Trovatore -- -- which recording would you recommend? I think I've seen it. Once. Quite a long time ago.
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« Reply #8 on: 14:56:44, 24-10-2007 » |
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The RCA with Price, Domingo, Cossotto and Milnes under Metha is a pretty safe bet
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« Reply #9 on: 14:59:04, 24-10-2007 » |
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Well, there's an admission, opi! Now, this might just pre-empt my nominations for star casting, but for genuine red-blooded Italian passion and fire, this is a good starting point: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Verdi-Il-trovatore-Ettore-Bastianini/dp/B000J233I0/ref=sr_1_1/203-4994897-1606365?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1193234031&sr=1-1 Some bias, as this was my very first operatic LP and my way into Verdi! The Mehta RCA recording mentioned by ernani was my first version on CD and is also good. If you can still find it, the live Salzburg 1962 account under Karajan is pretty special - Price, Corelli, Bastianini and Simionato all of their very best form.
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« Reply #10 on: 15:03:52, 24-10-2007 » |
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The RCA with Price, Domingo, Cossotto and Milnes under Metha is a pretty safe bet
Thanks, ernani! I'm not really too interested in safe -- it needn't be a stereo-era recording. And I do have a slight antipathy to Mehta. But the singers look like good ones, and it seems to be well regarded. A recording that comes with libretto would be handy. IGI, I'd also noticed and been tempted by the Serafin recording: presumably it comes with just a synopsis? Thanks to you both!
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« Reply #11 on: 15:05:18, 24-10-2007 » |
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IGI, I'd also noticed and been tempted by the Serafin recording: presumably it comes with just a synopsis? Yes, just a synopsis, although online libretti for popular operas are not too difficult to find.
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« Reply #12 on: 15:11:46, 24-10-2007 » |
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I went for the Serafin: at a little over a fiver (incl. postage) from a UK-based Amazon marketplace seller it seemed too good to miss! Thanks again!
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« Reply #13 on: 15:51:19, 24-10-2007 » |
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I went for the Serafin: at a little over a fiver (incl. postage) from a UK-based Amazon marketplace seller it seemed too good to miss! Thanks again! Hope you enjoy it - as GI says, the Serafin is very fine too. And yes, 'safe' is probably not what one would want in a performance of Trovatore
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« Reply #14 on: 16:21:27, 24-10-2007 » |
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I once read a hilarious story about someone trying to explain the plot of this opera to Mrs. Thatcher. She kept breaking off to say: 'But that doesn't make sense!' I think Gardelli would have been a good conductor for this one....shame he never seems to have recorded it. And, yes, bad to indifferent productions seem to proliferate for some reason. A friend of mine, who's been going to CG for the last fifty years, tells me they've never had a half-decent production of it.
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