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Author Topic: Nominations and Seconds for New Moderator.  (Read 4276 times)
oliver sudden
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« Reply #30 on: 17:51:27, 20-10-2007 »

The first action of a new moderator will probably be to propose the position of second moderator. I'm quite happy that these positions be decided one by one rather than in a mad rush at the beginning. This could actually help to produce a balanced team of moderators.

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« Reply #31 on: 17:54:53, 20-10-2007 »

Antheil, what are you going on about now? It's going to a VOTE.

Sorry, Vote?  Buglar, I never nominated myself!  Rats!  Here I am, Steady and Sober,  I could have been a Moderator!  Sob!  Sob!
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« Reply #32 on: 17:56:59, 20-10-2007 »

The first action of a new moderator will probably be to propose the position of second moderator. I'm quite happy that these positions be decided one by one rather than in a mad rush at the beginning. This could actually help to produce a balanced team of moderators.

Thankyou hh, that was exactly the idea, but I'm afriad I haven't exactly been able to explain it as well as that.
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« Reply #33 on: 17:59:31, 20-10-2007 »


"As I said, the plan is to have more than 1 new moderator.  But until we see who offers theirselves, it would be very foolish to say that we will use 3 from this poll alone.  Say that only 3 people put theirselves forward, that automatically means that ALL of them would gain moderator status, even if two of them recieved no votes.

I agree that more moderators are needed, but I also don't think that rushing into it would not be a good idea also.  One moderator is guarenteed from this, and MAYBE more, but until we see how it pans out, I think it is best to just wait and see"

Oh, Cynical Moi!  And there was I Michael thinking you were being serious and caring about this MB

So one Moderator is guaranteed from this?  Oh, let me Guess, John Wright?

I think this whole thing is pathetic if that is the case.


Anna,

Is there anything I could do that wouldn't make you a cynic of me?
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richard barrett
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« Reply #34 on: 18:02:36, 20-10-2007 »

The first action of a new moderator will probably be to propose the position of second moderator. I'm quite happy that these positions be decided one by one rather than in a mad rush at the beginning. This could actually help to produce a balanced team of moderators.
But then we're back to giving the Prime Moderator undue influence relative to any others, since s/he chooses them. I would prefer to see each moderation place voted on in turn (if it's done all at once taking the three candidates with the highest number of votes, I suspect there wouldn't be enough voters to give a meaningful result), with all but the candidate with the most votes going forward to the following vote.



er... was that clear?
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« Reply #35 on: 18:05:27, 20-10-2007 »

In each poll, there could be an option for 'none of the above'.  If the results for none of the above outweigh the results for the top candidate then it would be a void poll?
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« Reply #36 on: 18:08:37, 20-10-2007 »

The first action of a new moderator will probably be to propose the position of second moderator. I'm quite happy that these positions be decided one by one rather than in a mad rush at the beginning. This could actually help to produce a balanced team of moderators.
But then we're back to giving the Prime Moderator undue influence relative to any others, since s/he chooses them. I would prefer to see each moderation place voted on in turn (if it's done all at once taking the three candidates with the highest number of votes, I suspect there wouldn't be enough voters to give a meaningful result), with all but the candidate with the most votes going forward to the following vote.



er... was that clear?
That was clear, and what I was suggesting in a sense. In my post I was suggesting that the position be proposed by the first moderator, then nominations would be open in the same way as with the initial moderator. Hope that's clear!
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« Reply #37 on: 18:09:20, 20-10-2007 »

In each poll, there could be an option for 'none of the above'.  If the results for none of the above outweigh the results for the top candidate then it would be a void poll?

Could I confirm that we'd just be voting on one moderator in this vote, Michael? I agree with Richard in that I'd like to see three moderator posts being voted in turn rather than as the result of a single poll (unless we each get the right to vote three times).
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« Reply #38 on: 18:12:13, 20-10-2007 »

In each poll, there could be an option for 'none of the above'.  If the results for none of the above outweigh the results for the top candidate then it would be a void poll?
RON (Re-Open Nominations) is the usual protocol in my experience, but that might be confusing in the circumstances...
In the case of a void poll, you re-open nominations and hope that other people step forward (it's a bit like the papal election init? Only without the Holy Spirit's casting vote. Is someone going to be manning the chimney?)
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« Reply #39 on: 18:15:27, 20-10-2007 »

We can get far too 'hung up' with proceduralism purely for its own sake!

It seems clear to me (from my sense of things on this MB, after many months as a Member) that the list as it currently stands (even before further names are added) is comprised entirely of members who are well respected and completely trustworthy.

Surely, therefore, the smart thing actually to do is use ONE poll in order to elect THREE Moderators. We just need to be given a closing date by which nominations must appear.

Baz
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« Reply #40 on: 18:19:30, 20-10-2007 »

Baz, I think everyone had more or less agreed on the best way to do things, far from being "hung up" on procedure.
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« Reply #41 on: 18:21:32, 20-10-2007 »

OK. I put myself forward as a Moderator!

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« Reply #42 on: 18:23:35, 20-10-2007 »

Is someone going to be manning the chimney?

That'll be Martle or Mort I think.
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« Reply #43 on: 18:24:31, 20-10-2007 »

Baz, I think everyone had more or less agreed on the best way to do things, far from being "hung up" on procedure.

With respect Richard, that was not the impression I gained from message #37.

Baz
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Michael
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« Reply #44 on: 18:25:25, 20-10-2007 »

We can get far too 'hung up' with proceduralism purely for its own sake!

It seems clear to me (from my sense of things on this MB, after many months as a Member) that the list as it currently stands (even before further names are added) is comprised entirely of members who are well respected and completely trustworthy.

Surely, therefore, the smart thing actually to do is use ONE poll in order to elect THREE Moderators. We just need to be given a closing date by which nominations must appear.

Baz

Hey baz, check the first post for the closing date.

In a situation like this (re: one moderator being posted or 3) it will be difficult to come to an agreement.  We could have a poll on it.... but I personally don't think that is a great idea as it would only make things more complicated.

This first poll will only be for one moderator, (as seemed the best idea from this thread) but as the poll will be open for 3 days, it will leave ample time for new nominations when the next poll is opened after the first closes.  

This would also allow for people who are away from the net for a week to have a chance on the next set of polls.

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