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Author Topic: One's moderators' reluctance to reposition their fingers  (Read 1702 times)
richard barrett
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« Reply #15 on: 21:44:55, 09-10-2008 »

It seems to me a bit of cooling heels might be useful around here.

This board should really be as far as possible self-regulating. It's only natural that people will get on each other's nerves from time to time and this requires sensitivity on all sides if the result isn't going to be unpleasant for everyone.

It seems to me there's a certain amount that goes on here which may not infringe board rules as such, and might or might not be intended to annoy or wind people up, but which does nevertheless annoy and wind people up, and that the solution is for the person responsible to be a little more sensitive to his/her fellow posters and be a little more careful with the behaviour in question. I am thinking here of t-p and Sydney Grew primarily, though many of us have been guilty of such behaviour at one time or another and most understand that the answer is to "moderate" oneself if the situation isn't going to get out of hand. Otherwise the clear inference is that things getting out of hand is the aim of the behaviour.
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martle
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« Reply #16 on: 21:47:52, 09-10-2008 »

Folks. It's been a weird time on the board, has not it? Can we please just calm down and not rehash old chestnuts


or rekindle old sores



while things are in a state of flux? I think we need to think about our Moderators, who are grappling not only with all this but with spam attacks and lord knows what else.

Take a pill.

Just seen Richard's post which, as usual, puts the same point rather more directly. Exactly.
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Milly Jones
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« Reply #17 on: 21:53:02, 09-10-2008 »

Excellently put Richard.  Nobody likes everyone.  There are bound to be personality clashes and some people may overstep the mark without realising it.  I'll admit to waffling on about my family and of course, just because it is my life as it is, doesn't mean it is interesting to anyone else at all.  Pretty boring I suppose, like being forced to watch other people's holiday snaps.  "And here's a couple we met on the beach....."  Grin

I'll try to resist the temptation to tell it all "like it is" in future!   Grin  I certainly don't want to fall out with anyone.  There are only one or two people on this board I could ever take issue with and I tend to avoid those like the plague anyway.

Perhaps a bit more sense of humour all round? 
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« Reply #18 on: 21:57:22, 09-10-2008 »

An interesting point about messageboard psychology here, Milly. If one doesn't get immediate responses (or any) to one's posts, it does not mean they haven't been read or appreciated. I don't reply to every post with which I have sympathy, I often read it and nod, wisely. That's ok, right?  Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: 21:58:14, 09-10-2008 »

[In reply to Anty.]

Well, to be fair, you did modify (effectively delete) the offending message on second thoughts, but you must admit, you have trouble spelling Caerdydd.

My main concern is that having trawled back through t-p's messages, I can find no just cause for complaint, especially from those who are seeking the return from self-imposed exile of someone who with malicious intent invents insulting new transliterations of names in t-p's mother tongue.

You will recall that both you and A had a go at t-p over a simple misspelling of "mop". As one who frequently accidentally transposes vowels when typing, it was obvious that "map" should be read as "mop" in t-p's message, yet the two of you took up the matter as a stick with which to beat t-p.

Now if antagonisms are being developed off-board, through PMs, or other means, such antagonisms should, I feel also be resolved off-board. I have only ever received courtesy from t-p, despite my occasional jibes at her expense. If others have a different experience they should deal with it at the level of interaction at which it take place, i.e. if via PM, then deal with it on a one-to-one basis.
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« Reply #20 on: 22:04:05, 09-10-2008 »

An interesting point about messageboard psychology here, Milly. If one doesn't get immediate responses (or any) to one's posts, it does not mean they haven't been read or appreciated. I don't reply to every post with which I have sympathy, I often read it and nod, wisely. That's ok, right?  Smiley

Right.  Messageboard psychology is very complicated I find.  So easy to be misunderstood, or go too far, or totally misrepresent yourself just by the way you express it.  I, like you, often read something, agree sagely and assume that my agreement will have been telepathically received.   Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: 22:15:45, 09-10-2008 »

[In reply to Anty.]


You will recall that both you and A had a go at t-p over a simple misspelling of "mop". As one who frequently accidentally transposes vowels when typing, it was obvious that "map" should be read as "mop" in t-p's message, yet the two of you took up the matter as a stick with which to beat t-p.


As far as I was concerned I genuinely took this word to be map. She had been talking about maps and not being able to find Preston and I presumed it was to do with that...

5018 on Waffle Thread.

Then she said where is the mop?... I seriously presumed she meant map as that is what she had been asking about.

Now, even if we had been teasing, isn't that what everyone else on the board does to each other? Why are the rules different when t-p is in the picture? She is a person, as we all are. She posts on the board as we all do... but we can't say anything at all against her.

That is what is so difficult.

And Martle, you are now a peace maker... it didn't seem like that to me the other day with your over the top posting.

I am not posting on these boards nearly as often - as I am sure you will be happy about, but I would point out that my private moderation was made public by Ron and the threat of a public moderation to someone else was kept private. Interesting I think.

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« Reply #22 on: 22:31:10, 09-10-2008 »


Well it seems as though I have yet again inadvertently stopped another thread.

'Twas ever thus.

A
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« Reply #23 on: 22:34:08, 09-10-2008 »


Well it seems as though I have yet again inadvertently stopped another thread.

'Twas ever thus.

A

A good thing too.  This thread needed to be stopped.  Let's drop this one now.

Can you imagine us all in the Big Brother House?  Grin Grin Grin

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« Reply #24 on: 22:41:15, 09-10-2008 »

No, there has to be more to it than that, A. I also teased t-p about her English at around the same time. Remember she came back with the rejoinder about sunglasses when I cited two of her blunders in the R3ok Glossary thread? No, somewhere, and somehow antagonism had developed between some contributors here and t-p. It is not just down to a bit of teasing. There is something on quite a different level going on between some here, though what exactly it is, I know not. I do wish they would sort it out among themselves though, and let the board's banter resume as normal..
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« Reply #25 on: 22:43:22, 09-10-2008 »

Richard's and martle's words are great - let's all keep cool.  I try to remember this is only a messageboard.  Should we really get so upset about it?

But being a Libran, may I also make a point of balance and suggest we get upset about things because we care about this place.  We all have a passion of some sort for it.  And then could I remind people that all this place is is the posts from its members - the words of the people on it.

An observation:

Quite often we form beliefs about other members from their posts.  (For example, some may believe Ex-Member Grew (Sad) to be a fabrication and not the 'real' person sitting at his keyboard.)  Where things get tetchy is when we start thinking of those beliefs as truths.  And then posting in the light that those truths are undisputed facts.  I would just ask everyone to bear this in mind when riled by another's posts.  Is it deliberate antagonism, or an unintentional result of who they are?  Can you be certain?

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« Reply #26 on: 22:44:08, 09-10-2008 »

My reply to your accusation about the word mop/map is absolutely true. believe it or not, I don't really mind, but that is what I thought. And that is all I wish to say about it.

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martle
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« Reply #27 on: 22:48:55, 09-10-2008 »

This board should really be as far as possible self-regulating. It's only natural that people will get on each other's nerves from time to time and this requires sensitivity on all sides if the result isn't going to be unpleasant for everyone.

It seems to me there's a certain amount that goes on here which may not infringe board rules as such, and might or might not be intended to annoy or wind people up, but which does nevertheless annoy and wind people up, and that the solution is for the person responsible to be a little more sensitive to his/her fellow posters and be a little more careful with the behaviour in question. I am thinking here of t-p and Sydney Grew primarily, though many of us have been guilty of such behaviour at one time or another and most understand that the answer is to "moderate" oneself if the situation isn't going to get out of hand. Otherwise the clear inference is that things getting out of hand is the aim of the behaviour.

Gosh, this is worth re-posting. Is not it?
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« Reply #28 on: 22:54:41, 09-10-2008 »

Since leaving these boards, Muchboggery has been fairly busy over at TOP.

I hadn't spotted this, Bryn, and can't locate anything there on a quick scan (although I don't read the boards there that much now).

Un, try here.

I have not checked other possible multiple identities.



What a valuable resource for the dedicated Grewologist!  Among much other valuable and illuminating material, one can detect the shift from the first person singular to the plural in about May 2006.
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« Reply #29 on: 22:55:01, 09-10-2008 »

Can you imagine us all in the Big Brother House?  Grin Grin Grin

I seem to remember this being suggested in the Golden Age of Waffle... Who did we put in the house?
I may have to dig this up later...
You must wait... oh sorry! Got carried away there.
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