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George Garnett
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« Reply #4245 on: 11:51:34, 30-03-2008 »

George, why are you invoking a "lick scream" emoticon?

Why?! Have you ever had a shepherd turn into a fountain when you were in the middle of giving him a tongue lashing?


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« Reply #4246 on: 12:38:57, 30-03-2008 »

George, why are you invoking a "lick scream" emoticon?

Why?! Have you ever had a shepherd turn into a fountain when you were in the middle of giving him a tongue lashing?


[This is going to be yet another occasion when I'm going to regret the demise of the 'Remove' button, isn't it.  Undecided ]



Ahem.

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« Reply #4247 on: 13:15:37, 30-03-2008 »

I'm going to regret this, but while we're waiting for Don Basilio to return from church, consider these four:

Cornelius Cardew
Nikolaus Decius
Léonin
Karlheinz Stockhausen
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« Reply #4248 on: 13:31:10, 30-03-2008 »

At least you haven't got it within minutes, as I feared.  You are on the right track for the connection, although it might be simpler than you might imagine.

The Cavalli and Offenbach have been named.

(You're right, hh, about my whereabouts.  The vicar is on his Easter break and the service was appreciably shorter than usual.)
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« Reply #4249 on: 13:45:15, 30-03-2008 »

Strauss - Die Liebe der Danae
Cavalli - Gli amori d'Apollo e di Dafne
Offenbach - Orphée aux enfers
Handel - Xerxes
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« Reply #4250 on: 13:48:26, 30-03-2008 »

The Cavalli, Strauss and Offenbach have all been named.  Spot of thunder in the air?  Forget sunshine and poetry.
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« Reply #4251 on: 13:52:43, 30-03-2008 »

The Cavalli, Strauss and Offenbach have all been named.  Spot of thunder in the air?  Forget sunshine and poetry.
Semele?
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« Reply #4252 on: 14:01:08, 30-03-2008 »

Strauss - Der Liebe der Danae
Handel - Semele
Offenbach - Orphée aux enfers
Cavalli - La Calisto

...alll feature Jupiter!
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« Reply #4253 on: 14:10:27, 30-03-2008 »

Spot on hh and IGI.  I knew it couldn't be long.

They all feature what the C18 called the Amours of Jove.

(In Offenbach, although Euridyce is initially carried off by Pluto, I understand Jupiter takes a big shine to her.  This was not in Greek mythology, IIRC.) 
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« Reply #4254 on: 15:26:06, 30-03-2008 »

I rushed in before bbm's puzzle was answered in full.  The link is Aubade.  What are the musical pieces.
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« Reply #4255 on: 16:30:40, 30-03-2008 »

I rushed in before bbm's puzzle was answered in full.  The link is Aubade.  What are the musical pieces.
It maybe the weekend but the brain cells still have to be excercised. So here are a few. One is a poet(if that is allowed!?!?!?)

Philip Larkin
Poulenc
Ravel
Lalo

All I would say at this time, is that there is one common type of something they wrote, etc.


Larkin's poem, Lalo's (1872) dectet and Poulenc's (1929) 'choreographic concerto' for piano and 18 instruments are simply called Aubade but the Ravel is an item from Miroirs (1906), Alborado del Gracioso
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« Reply #4256 on: 18:03:22, 30-03-2008 »

Larkin's poem, Lalo's (1872) dectet and Poulenc's (1929) 'choreographic concerto' for piano and 18 instruments are simply called Aubade but the Ravel is an item from Miroirs (1906), Alborado del Gracioso

More Lalo info:
Lalo's two Aubades for ten instruments are derived from his grand opéra, Fiesque, which (according to Grove) has never been performed.

Quote from: Hugh MacDonald: 'Edouard Lalo', Grove Music Online ed. L Macy Accessed 30 March 2008), <www.grovemusic.com.>
The opera Fiesque is encumbered with a libretto laden with absurdities and awkward stage manoeuvres, belonging in spirit to the age of Scribe. Yet for a first opera the music is extraordinarily deft and varied, occasionally pompous but never dull, and full of brilliantly successful numbers. The Divertissement, drawn from the opera, is one of Lalo’s most effective orchestral pieces. Le roi d’Ys is a fine opera too, with some borrowing of the conventional scenes of grand opera, such as the offstage organ with ethereal voices. Margared is well characterized, especially in her expressions of anxiety or horror, and Rozenn has music of winning tenderness. The choral music is less convincing, for Lalo seems inadequate to the task of collective characterization except when the chorus are being conventionally decorative, as for example in the exquisite wedding scene. The opera has considerable dramatic force and a genuine individuality of style.

I'm going to regret this, but while we're waiting for Don Basilio to return from church, consider these four:

Cornelius Cardew
Nikolaus Decius
Léonin
Karlheinz Stockhausen

Now does anyone have any ideas on these four?
We're looking for a genre, a song cycle, a piece for keyboard and a piece of sacred music.
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« Reply #4257 on: 22:16:36, 30-03-2008 »



More Lalo info:
Lalo's two Aubades for ten instruments are derived from his grand opéra, Fiesque, which (according to Grove) has never been performed.


That's rather ungallant to Ruth who has sat through it in London within the last month

http://www.operatoday.com/content/2008/03/lalos_fiesque_u.php

Ruth's comment

Fiesque may not be a lost masterpiece, but UC Opera certainly made as persuasive a case for it as it is ever likely to get.

is a masterpiece of diplomacy.

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« Reply #4258 on: 07:17:15, 31-03-2008 »

Indeed, hh, they were the nes I was after. Mentioning, I suppose the Philip Larkin poem, wouldve been a give away!!
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« Reply #4259 on: 15:59:17, 01-04-2008 »

I'm going to regret this, but while we're waiting for Don Basilio to return from church, consider these four:

Cornelius Cardew
Nikolaus Decius
Léonin
Karlheinz Stockhausen

Now does anyone have any ideas on these four?
We're looking for a genre, a song cycle, a piece for keyboard and a piece of sacred music.

Still no bites on this one.

Cornelius Cardew, piece for keyboard
Nikolaus Decius, hymn
Léonin, genre (or possibly it would be better to say a technique)
Karlheinz Stockhausen, song cycle

Is that any better? Léonin can be replaced by Pérotin or Anonymous IV if you like...
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