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« Reply #5205 on: 11:06:43, 21-09-2008 » |
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Birthday Ode for George III?
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« Reply #5206 on: 00:29:45, 22-09-2008 » |
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Birthday Ode for George III?
Not that occasion; the other one! Cryptic1 William Boyce (ode) 2 Richard Ayleward 3 Gustav Holst, 'Mars' from The Planets4 Richard Barrett, Opening of the mouth5 Ruggero Leoncavallo 6 Orlando di Lassus 7 George Frideric Handel 8 Dr John Blow Quick1 John McCabe 2 Cornelius Cardew 3 Robert Schumann / sub. John Philip Sousa 4 Thomas Morley 5 Orlando Gibbons |
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« Reply #5207 on: 06:16:01, 22-09-2008 » |
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I have absolutely no idea what it is we're looking for, even after trawling past the previous page and a half of posts. But I really wanted to throw this wild guess into the ranks:
7. Handel: "The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light"
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« Reply #5208 on: 08:44:47, 22-09-2008 » |
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I have absolutely no idea what it is we're looking for, even after trawling past the previous page and a half of posts. But I really wanted to throw this wild guess into the ranks:
7. Handel: "The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light"
The problem with giving any clues right now is that it might let the entire litter out of the plush silk sack. But the Handel that we're looking for is a complete work, and while it is a work for voices it is rather more secular than your guess. Time to try another Boyce Ode...
King's Ode for the New Year?
It's not that one, but the occasion is correct this time. Birthday Ode for George III?
Not that occasion; the other one! Just to clarify, we're looking for a New Year ode. |
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« Reply #5209 on: 17:05:37, 22-09-2008 » |
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So presumably it's something from the Ode For The New Year, 1774: True, Tyrant: Wherefore Then Does Pride?
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« Reply #5210 on: 17:54:01, 22-09-2008 » |
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So presumably it's something from the Ode For The New Year, 1774: True, Tyrant: Wherefore Then Does Pride?
He seems to have written a number of new year odes and it's not that one. Sorry. Of the cryptics so far offered, the solutions fall into 'families': 1, 3, 5 and 6 are of a type; 2 and 4 are of a type; and 7 and 8 are of a type. |
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« Reply #5211 on: 22:14:27, 22-09-2008 » |
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Cryptic
1 William Boyce (New Year ode)
2 Richard Ayleward
3 Gustav Holst, 'Mars' from The Planets
4 Richard Barrett, Opening of the mouth
5 Ruggero Leoncavallo
6 Orlando di Lassus
7 George Frideric Handel (secular vocal work)
8 Dr John Blow
9 Harry Partch
Quick
1 John McCabe
2 Cornelius Cardew
3 John Philip Sousa
4 Thomas Morley
5 Orlando Gibbons
6 Richard Rodgers
(I'm hoping that a few pennies will start to drop with regard to the quick clues soon...)
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« Reply #5212 on: 22:18:44, 22-09-2008 » |
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Leoncavallo has to be I Pagliacci.
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« Reply #5213 on: 22:32:09, 22-09-2008 » |
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Leoncavallo has to be I Pagliacci.
A couple of obvious candidates then...
Leoncavallo - I Pagliacci
Holst - The Perfect Fool
Boyce - Incidental music for The Tempest
I'm afraid that none of these are correct. I'm reserving clues for a little while. I don't want it to end too soon... has nothing to do with 'Mars'. Remember I said that 1, 3, 5 and 6 were of a kind. |
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« Reply #5214 on: 23:31:13, 22-09-2008 » |
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Sousa - Silver Spray?
Gibbons - The Silver Swan?
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« Reply #5215 on: 23:38:51, 22-09-2008 » |
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Sousa - Silver Spray?
Gibbons - The Silver Swan?
The 'quick' clues aren't a word link. And those two aren't the works we're looking for. We're not looking for a Schottische by Sousa. The Gibbons is the correct genre though. [edit to add detail] This may seem annoyingly perverse to some but I hope that it's worth it... What I'm trying to say is that the 'quick' clues will lead you to a set of works that have a thematic link. The order in which they appear (and the number that they are assigned) is significant and integral to the thematic link. Each of the 'cryptic' clues is related to its respective 'quick' clue, but within the 'cryptics' there is no obvious thematic link (the link is to the 'quick' clue). Having said that, there are different 'types' of answer within the 'cryptics'. 1, 3, 5 and 6 are of a kind; as are 2 and 4; 7 and 8 are literally related; the remaining works are also of a kind. I hope that this makes things clearer and that you don't quite completely hate me yet. |
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« Reply #5216 on: 23:49:41, 22-09-2008 » |
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So, a Gibbons madrigal. Daintie fine bird? Fair is the rose?
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« Reply #5217 on: 23:55:40, 22-09-2008 » |
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So, a Gibbons madrigal. Daintie fine bird? Fair is the rose?
No and no. Definitely no birds here, but perhaps the floral motif is one that can be pursued (but not thematically!). |
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« Reply #5218 on: 23:56:46, 22-09-2008 » |
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Now each flowery bank of May?
Morley - April is in my mistress' face?
Rodgers - Carousel - June Is Bustin' Out All Over
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« Reply #5219 on: 23:58:43, 22-09-2008 » |
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We have a winner!
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