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« Reply #150 on: 16:19:50, 05-03-2007 » |
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I do find it unfair that Radio 1 have got loads of boards dedicated to the station. Most of these boards are full of idiotic kids and trolls.
This is a very good point. Why are the BBC so worried about Radio 3 listeners? Are the producers more sensitive or do they think we are more articulate and so more of a threat? |
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« Reply #151 on: 16:27:04, 05-03-2007 » |
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Why are the BBC so worried about Radio 3 listeners? Are the producers more sensitive or do they think we are more articulate and so more of a threat?
I really don't know. The way people are reacting on the Radio 4 MB is sometimes very unfriendly, but hardly any of those messages are being removed. I know messages on the Radio 3 MB that were not so very unfriendly and still they were removed.  Radio 3 is still considered as the arts channel and perhaps the BBC thinks that art should turn people into "decent" citizens? Perhaps from this perspective, certain remarks on the Radio 3 MB are not considered as "decent" by the BBC?  |
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"People hate anything well made. It gives them a guilty conscience." John Betjeman
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« Reply #152 on: 16:31:42, 05-03-2007 » |
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Threat? Yes, very possibly: I'm half convinced that this is pay-back time for our dissent over DAB bit-rates, and the eventual reinstatement of a (relatively) higher standard for R3.
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« Reply #153 on: 19:41:12, 05-03-2007 » |
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Ho! I've just paid a visit to the "other place" where, sad to say, more threads have been closed. One was in line with what could be posted but that didn't seem to concern the "destroyer". So far as I'm concerned the "other place" is now run in so childish a manner that I am reluctant to make more than a casual inspection there. Perhaps, when the BBC learns that its audience is not growing, and support of longstanding listeners is falling away, the "suits" and master suit will reactivate some grey cells.
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« Reply #154 on: 21:58:25, 05-03-2007 » |
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Well, that was the end of that then. I "resigned" from the old boards a few minutes ago. Utter complete idiocy seems to rule now, numerous threads have been closed without a word of explanation. Well, one less website to look at and conversley, more time here!
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« Reply #155 on: 23:28:26, 05-03-2007 » |
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Is there any evidence that BBC producers / client companies acxtually read THESE mb's?
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« Reply #156 on: 01:24:12, 06-03-2007 » |
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Is there any evidence that BBC producers / client companies acxtually read THESE mb's? Southendian, in a message he/she immediately closed having posted a prouncement, came out with some idiotic tosh on this subject (I paraphrase, as I no longer visit "the other side", but Soundwave will remember it as he was as irked as I was...).. "The program-makers are too busy making programs to visit this website". This really admits that the so-called "interactivity rebuild" of the boards was either - a colossal misjudgement of astonishing naivety, that program-makers would obey orders and appear on the site (some like RC and JS and SP-M have done so to an admirable degree, some like Iaian Burnside put in a token appearance and then realised it was actually the trenches of a war... most have never appeared at all
OR - an extraordinary cynical piece of stealth to set an unreachable interactivity target for the boards whilst hobbling their ability to hit this... so that the entire closedown of the boards can be justified sometime not far up the line, and blamed on the trollish behaviour of the new crop of rent-a-gobs
Neither is at all honourable, but something within me grudgingly salutes pure calculated guile over wretched flailing idiocy  |
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They say travel broadens the mind - but in many cases travel has made the mind not exactly broader, but thicker.
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« Reply #157 on: 01:35:28, 06-03-2007 » |
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It's a nice cheap way for the management to outsource the Radio 3 message boards isn't it? Make it all so unpleasant and unattractive that no-one but a troll would enjoy posting there, then shut it all down. If the boards ever, by some miracle, recover to be a place worth spending time on again, then people will remember the way that Southendian etc have behaved.
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« Reply #158 on: 16:29:23, 06-03-2007 » |
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Ho! It sprang to mind that Howard Jacobson wrote in an article, in The Independent, some few weeks ago - “There is a vindictiveness in dumbing down. It aims to dethrone not only intelligence but the means by which we rate one thing above another.” How apt ,as we see what is now happening on R3 Message Boards in the "other place".
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« Reply #159 on: 19:54:11, 06-03-2007 » |
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I believe Jonathan Swain is answering posts by listeners concerning CD Masters on the Breakfast and Music Matters message boards now and then. Interesting.
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« Reply #160 on: 00:04:06, 07-03-2007 » |
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Yes, as pointed a statement as it is possible to make by JS. It seems to be emerging, does it not, that the 'Cowan Collection' / CDM teams are hanging together on this one. One is an in-house prog, the other an outsourced one. I find that particularly revealing. Swain has presumably cleared this with the company that does CDM, OR he is so incensed by the whole fiasco that this is his subtle, undemonstrative way of saying what he thinks.
I look forward to Iain Burnside realising that he has got himself into a hopelessly demeaning turkey of a programme - last Saturday's has to be an all-time low - that will do his career no good at all.
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« Reply #161 on: 00:08:25, 07-03-2007 » |
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The whole thing's a mess. What gets modded seems quite arbitrary, especially on the Music Matters board. I had a quick look at the MBs for radios 1, 2 and 4 today and there's plenty of nonsense there and yet some very interesting and relevant stuff has been ruled out of order on the R3 ones. There's got to be some hidden agenda. Do they think we're a bunch of smug know-it-alls who need keeping in check?
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« Reply #162 on: 08:39:15, 07-03-2007 » |
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I think they don't want regular posters. They want a few posts from people who write once in a while.
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« Reply #163 on: 08:45:58, 07-03-2007 » |
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And that is exactly what they are getting. Sad how the community there has been ripped apart - but good that it has found a new home here!
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« Reply #164 on: 09:02:16, 07-03-2007 » |
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In the past couple of days there have been small signs of regrowth emerging: there's been a thread evolving from a CDM spin of an Elgar recording of his own first symphony which is starting to look very like an old-style CDM one, though such instances still look like isolated green shoots dotted sparsely in the ashes of a huge forest fire.
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