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Ian Pace
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« Reply #105 on: 11:53:31, 21-07-2007 »

And hasn't lived in the UK for 40 years, and furthermore has equally if not more harsh things than either Potter or myself on English culture and life (and the English class system). And who told me once that learning German was part of thoroughly reinventing his whole self away from the Englishness of his past, or words to that effect.
Fortunately he also says other things as well - indeed they're in the overwhelming majority, the entire volume of Collected Writing containing nothing more on that theme than the odd glancing reference.
I'm sure you're aware that the Ferneyhough speaking informally at receptions and the like (especially when the wine has been flowing) has rather different things to say than the one who inhabits the Collected Writings (which is mostly made up of interviews, anyhow). Believe me, the views on England and Englishness I've heard from him are as strong as one gets (and I don't think he would particularly mind me alluding to them).

And oh look, we seem to be back to the usual subject again. Anyone with something to say about periodicals?
Why don't you make a start, then?
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« Reply #106 on: 14:05:22, 21-07-2007 »

As someone who likes to celebrate and nurture the rich diversity of fragile and exotic local cultures against the depredations of an increasingly hegemonic world, I do hope none of these loud, robust Europeans with their long lists of abusive adjectives and the red-blooded rough-and-tumble of their shouty musicological articles are going to impose their Eurocentral-centric 'world-view' on a harmless and gentle people whose historical unfolding happens to have taken a different but no less valid path? These things never work, you know, when dominant political entities attempt to impose them from outside. They must be allowed to develop in their own way, if at all, from within. "English solutions for English problems".

Anyone for a second muffin?

Anyone with something to say about periodicals?

Oh, yes, quite right. Never one to pass up on a R3OK recommendation, I've just been reading the latest quarterly issue of "This England" Smiley.  Interesting anniversary articles on Edward Elgar and William Wilberforce. As far as I could tell (before I was rather rudely moved on by a W H Smith's employee) they seemed to be broadly in favour of both. Interesting small ads at the back for services I didn't even know existed.
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« Reply #107 on: 14:21:53, 21-07-2007 »

Oh George, you are a proper tease.

Anyone for a second muffin?

No thanks although I will have one of those darling little madeleines to go with my lime-blossom tisane. Sends me on a right trip, that.

Did I ever mention how dodgy Fono Forum is? I must say it didn't take me very long before I consigned it to the 'just read it to find out what's come out' file. Anyone else had that experience?

(Although I will admit that one time I did very much enjoy reading a review that gave Philippe Herreweghe 5/5 for both the performance and the sound, but the reviewer spent the entire text taking him to task for his musicological slackness. That was a giggle.)
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« Reply #108 on: 15:11:38, 21-07-2007 »

I think This England also produced CDs of vintage light music, from original 78rpm recordings, the Evergreen label rings a bell, but now it seems to be known as Yesterday's Music and just one light music CD in the on-line catalogue??

http://www.yesterdaysmusic.net/
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« Reply #109 on: 15:24:21, 21-07-2007 »

I think This England also produced CDs of vintage light music, from original 78rpm recordings, the Evergreen label rings a bell, but now it seems to be known as Yesterday's Music and just one light music CD in the on-line catalogue??

http://www.yesterdaysmusic.net/

Many thanks, John. Smiley

Marvelous stuff! Cool
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« Reply #110 on: 22:44:32, 21-07-2007 »

Hmmm, the navigation of the Yesterdays Music site is a bit challenging, I;ve just found they have several light music CD's there, Coates, Ketelby, Farnon. Also a couple of names I know from dance band arrangements, Peter Yorke and Louis Levy, though some while back I had an article submitted by the editor of a British Film Music reference who says Levy wrote nothing!!  Shocked

http://www.jabw.demon.co.uk/levyref.htm
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« Reply #111 on: 10:51:04, 23-07-2007 »

Which reminds me that all Potter could find to write on the subject of Time and Motion I in Contact was that it was too hard to play and should perhaps be realised electronically. He seems to have missed the dialectic there... Wink

The article you are referring to is 'Time and Motion Study 1', by Kevin Corner, in Contact No. 20 (Autumn 1979), pp. 11-12.

That's a relief - really didn't sound like Keith at all!

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There is an article by Keith Potter on Ferneyhough in the same issue, on the 'Sonatas for String Quartet' < snip >

I don't wish to turn this thread into a love-in for my PhD supervisor, but where exactly is the [English] outlet today for writing like that on contemporary music - light and non-academic, but still perceptive and illuminating? Tempo possibly, but not quite, and CUP's enormous lead-in times - September deadline for January publication! - seem to work against more spontaneous utterances that have some of the urgency of the moment.
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« Reply #112 on: 12:22:16, 23-07-2007 »

I don't wish to turn this thread into a love-in for my PhD supervisor
Why not? - he's worth it.

I felt and still feel that the people running Contact got the balance of all the things it was supposed to be doing about right, bridging the gap between mass-market journalism and academic specialisation, and therefore attractive to interested parties who didn't yet know very much, as I was when I started reading it. (They also allowed a 24-year-old with no academic background or previous publications to thank his composition teacher for three years of lessons by writing an article about his work.)
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« Reply #113 on: 12:34:46, 23-07-2007 »

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bridging the gap between mass-market journalism and academic specialisation, and therefore attractive to interested parties who didn't yet know very much

Exactly. Who's up for restarting Contact, then?  Wink
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« Reply #114 on: 12:58:51, 23-07-2007 »

I'm sure I and many others would be. The advantage these days is that it isn't necessary to spend money on producing a physical magazine and distributing it. These people, for example,

http://www.paristransatlantic.com/magazine/main/home.html

get along very well without all those appurtenances.
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« Reply #115 on: 16:01:55, 23-07-2007 »

...although ironically Dan Warburton has just decided to retire from PT for a while:

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Right now, I can't say for sure when or even if there will be another "normal" issue of Paris Transatlantic. Needless to say, the CDs keep on coming, and divine madmen like Massimo keep on writing, so I daresay there will be enough raw material for another issue before too long. I'll let you know, I guess. But to all those out there who've been logging on faithfully on the first of every month for their PT fix (thank you!), you might just want to be on the lookout for another place to score.

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« Reply #116 on: 17:10:27, 23-07-2007 »

... where exactly is the [English] outlet today for writing like that on contemporary music - light and non-academic, but still perceptive and illuminating? Tempo possibly, but not quite, and CUP's enormous lead-in times - September deadline for January publication! - seem to work against more spontaneous utterances that have some of the urgency of the moment.

Perhaps The Wire or Signal to Noise come the closest, these days?  It's often not terribly detailed or especially insightful, but both often at least give good introductory surveys on contemporary music/musicians ... and I actually quite like that this is happening in magazines that aren't specifically catering to the 'new music' (and academic) audience/inside crowd.

And, as RB points out, there are increasing numbers of online journals that attempt this sort of thing, though my experience has been that the shelf life for such e-magazines is pretty short.
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« Reply #117 on: 17:28:39, 23-07-2007 »

I vaguely remember a certain composer–one whose writing style, while sometimes "perceptive and illuminating," is anything but "light and non-academic"–mentioning a year or so ago that he and a Leipzig-based co-conspirator were planning such a web-based project.  I hesitate to divulge names because I don't know whether it's still in the works, but I Think Some Of You Know To Whom I Am Referring.  I was really looking forward to it.
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« Reply #118 on: 17:33:35, 23-07-2007 »

I vaguely remember a certain composer–one whose writing style, while sometimes "perceptive and illuminating," is anything but "light and non-academic"–mentioning a year or so ago that he and a Leipzig-based co-conspirator were planning such a web-based project.  I hesitate to divulge names because I don't know whether it's still in the works, but I Think Some Of You Know To Whom I Am Referring.  I was really looking forward to it.

It's still happening, as far as I know.  Last he & I spoke, it was all moving forward & he's started soliciting articles, though I haven't heard anything in the last month or so.

And no, it surely will be neither "light" nor "non-academic," knowing those two.   Wink 
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« Reply #119 on: 17:45:30, 23-07-2007 »

So Bach and who else?  Undecided
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